Is Sonja Morgan Upset With LuAnn Over the Tom Drama?

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Sonja Morgan is speaking out about her relationship with LuAnn de Lesseps’ man Thomas D’Agostino and revealing why she really had a problem with their engagement at first. Morgan admits that she didn’t like that way Tom handled the situation in a new interview.

“I think that Tom just needed to tell the truth. Tom said to Luann that he was seeing me. I knew the group knew and it was going to come out. I knew there was no getting around it. To be polite, I said we were friends with benefits,” Morgan told Vulture. “I don’t expect the man to do that. The man has to make a woman feel special. He should have said, ‘We were really good friends and we had something special, but then I fell for Lu.’ That would have made us both feel special. That’s why I made the comments about the murky yellow diamond and stuff. I wasn’t mad at her. I was mad at him.”

But Sonja insists that nothing will hurt her relationship with Lu. “Yes [we’re fine], I will never let a guy come between us. I want to be friends with him, too,” she said. “You can’t be a tomcat and a lying cat. You have to tell the truth.”

Morgan explains that she only ever thought of Tom as a drinking buddy. “You know how Luann gets when it comes to men. I always say that I won’t let a man come between us. When we were living together, you got to see another side to her,” she explained. “She was more open about dating and I thought that was refreshing. Then as soon as there is a man, forget it. She gets like that. I wasn’t thinking of Tom in that way. I thought of him as a drinking buddy, dinner date, have sex after 11 p.m. and leave by 7 a.m. kind of guy.”

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  • Real Sandy⛱

    It sounds like Tom was just a f…k buddy then. Now we know more about the night visits he made, in and then out by morning. 😮
    Sonja is being pretty cool about it, though it seemed to upset her on the show that she is losing a friend…who denied her close involvement with him too for the most part.
    I don’t like Tom at all, but I do like Sonja. She is harmless really.

  • Aunt Bee

    Maybe because I am an old lady the morals of these women shock me. There are just to many sexually transmitted desease today to act this way.

    • Real Sandy

      That’s true about the STDs. I think many of these older women feel somewhat immune in their minds anyway. Just my opinion.
      😉

    • Scott

      You assume they aren’t having safe sex.maybe they are. Maybe they aren’t. And why judge them by your “morals”.

      • Aunt Bee

        I said I was shocked not judging. I grew up in the 40’s and 50’s we never heard about HIV and AIDS.

        • That’s because AIDS didn’t become a virus in humans until about 1975 or thereabouts. I know I was in a hospital in 1979, and I would not allow them to give me a blood transfusion, my husband was ready to carry me out because the doctor got a court order!! Then my blood count steadied, Thank You God. But, right after that I started hearing about people with hemophilia contracting AIDS from blood transfusions. Real Sandy will know the exact date, mine is approximate to my memory of those times.
          As far as morals, morals are morals. Whether or not there were STD’s r not isn’t the point. I know Syphilis was around long ago, centuries ago. We are shocked and saddened, not judging. Where did Bee say anything that was judging? It is her OPINION. And mine.

          • Real Sandy⛱

            In 1945 a naval pilot died on an aircraft carrier of an unusual illness. His tissue was saved by the government. There were sporadic other deaths in 1951, 58, 64 and 67. All the tissue was saved from these individuals after they died. They think that somehow in the later 70s, this old virus mutated in Africa. It was picked up by Cuban soldiers in Angola and brought back to Cuba. In Cuba there was a bisexual community. A male Canadian flight attendant contracted it in Cuba and brought it back to Canada, the United States (NY, SFO, etc.) That mutated virus passed rapidly through the mostly gay community. It caused two infections, Pneumocystic Pneumonia and Kaposi’s Sarcoma. That is how it all started and then it mushroomed from the gay community to the IV drug users, the the prostitutes, etc., and to the innocent ones who received blood transfusions. Hemophiliacs were the first non HIV patients to contract AIDS from a blood transfusion. They receive Factor 8 which is concentrated from a lot of blood from many donors. That is when they realized that blood was contaminated.
            You were right to refuse that transfusion back then. There are three forms at least of the virus. The most serious is the African, to a lesser degree the N.American and to a lesser degree European.
            All of the above came from the spouse who studied infectious disease and almost specialized in it back when HIV was just being discovered. Oddly, he worked with the very first afflicted doctor in the country…in NJ. Back then the patients with AIDS were given numbers (no names involved) and were in Newark, NJ. He used to tell me about the doctor who was afflicted. Little did I know then…when he was dying…that I would find out years later, that he was someone I knew. He dated my best friend, and I dated his best friend. I found out in San Francisco when I bumped into my old bf and his then an present gf in conversation…that his friend who dated my friend was the patient with the number, and I knew he was a medical student years ago…but I moved away. Sad, sad stories and thank goodness we have better treatment now.

            • OMG! Thank you, Sandy, for the dates, but the story mainly. It was sad then, and is sad now. Now, it can be prevented, and that we know how is the difference. Yes, I could have been one of the ones infected then. I had a feeling you would know, not because you are a wonderful R.N. but you have a head for the important times, dates and life circumstance that I have only seen in one other person in my lifetime. You just have a “feel” for important things. I see it, you might know it, many people know what their gifts are and share them, and many don’t know and share them. So, again, thank you for that fascinating lesson. I bet the reason I only heard about the hemophiliacs was because of the bias in the news, and bigotry. There is still bigotry, and bias, but we are educated in the cause now. ❤️

              • Real Sandy ⛱

                It was the early 80s when things became more public. Thanks to hubby for the other dates. He is also a historian who reads history books for fun so dates are his thing. 😉
                I am always glad to help if I can.
                Thanks so much for all of your kind words, 3 D’s.
                Yes there gas been a lot of ignorance and prejudice over the years. Anyone can get it, really.
                Have a nice day my friend. Xxxxxooooo ❤️❤️

                • Real Sandy ⛱

                  3 D’s. You are the one with the awesome memory.
                  I am in awe of your many talents too!
                  Love ya. XO

                  • I have help with my memory, too, in the form of Amazon Prime Video Library. It is the way you tell it though, not to go on & on, but you have a gift for telling the entire story, making it so interesting that I can not stop reading ( even when your husband helps with the dates ) and being concise. Have you ever done, or considered giving lectures to Medical students? My ability is limited to writing mostly, although I can change the course of a conversation if need be.
                    That is why I believe Jaqo could have easily changed the course of hers and Theresa’s talk that evening. If she really loved Theresa, she would have been cognizant of the fact that Theresa just got HOME. Theresa, no matter her faults, was in a raw, tired place. Jaqo should have gone over as soon as it started, put her arms around her “friend” and said “I am sorry for hurting you, and if you can say the same to me, let’s forgive one another & never speak of this again.”

                    • Real Sandy⛱

                      Thanks, 3 D’s. Honestly, from what I was told in the past as a nursing student and nurse, I probably should have gone into teaching other nurses at that time, anyway. I used to fill in for my instructor when she was not well at my own nursing program with clinical. She asked me.
                      If only I started out younger and life did not change drastically when my mom passed suddenly which had me relocating and unable to go back to school, then marrying, and then it just was not easy. Today with online education, it is much easier. I would have loved to go into instructing other nurses at some point in some way, even if just for in-service programs at hospitals.
                      Also, perhaps, I should have delved into writing a bit more. It is funny. I used to write poetry in my youth. I stopped that. I know you have a gift with words that surpasses most of us, and I do enjoy how much you recall and can remind me of all that I have forgotten. It helps.
                      A funny story: I helped my young son write a thank you note to a guidance counselor after being accepted into his first choice college…maybe too much. (She had written a letter of recommendation and even had a daughter who graduated from that same college.) She wrote back to him saying that maybe he should go into writing since he had such a gift with writing. I laughed at that, but it made me feel good at the time. 😉
                      I think sometimes I am unaware, but I look for the musicality in my words. Maybe it was from writing sonnets years ago, but I find myself at times just looking for the better ending that sounds right. Lately, though, my writing is the worst! It was far better when I was younger, and my memory was better. My grasp of the words I want to say is not always present. Maybe early Alzheimer’s, but I do hope that it isn’t, for everyone’s sake.
                      I still am in awe of a few here who can write so brilliantly. I think Bon Vivant is one of the most talented writers, and she puts me to shame.
                      I love to read everyone’s comments, except maybe the trolls. Some here have very interesting lives, stories to tell, good hearts, and a love of mankind. It shows.
                      Thanks, 3 D’s. Sorry all for writing so much. Oh, and Luann was an L.P.N. I went to college undeclared, but was unsure what to do, worked in a hospital. Then I tried nursing, and I was an L.P.N too, worked to save for school and then went back to become a registered nurse.
                      Okay, this is too much, but I am not criticizing Luann for becoming rich and famous. I think she did quite well for herself.

    • Princess of Strogonoff

      People have been sleeping around for ages and STD’s have been around for ages, the morals are not that different from the time when you were young and Wallis Simpson was hated by everyone, the only difference is that now people are more open about their sexual escapades, and those sexual escapades are easier to come by for both men and women

      • Aunt Bee

        Personally, I find what you say very sad for the world our children and grandchildren grow up in. But that is just my opinion.

  • Agree with both of these ladies. But, Tom doesn’t sound like a very upstanding guy. Luann seems just too desparate and has jumped the gun here. Beware Lu, thou will reap what thou sows!!!!!

    • Aunt Bee

      I agree Karen. Lu was talking marriage before he even bought the ring and probably before he even popped the question. Maybe she asked him????? Also I heard he has little money – maybe she is playing the Kenya card and paying him to marry her. Absolutely nothing would surprise me about the countless.

      • Real Sandy⛱

        I don’t think she made too much money off her music, and she is one of the least wealthy of the ladies if not the least wealthy, unless she has some more stashed that no one knows about.
        I could see her asking him. Maybe that is because she gives off so much masculine energy. Maybe Tom likes that? Now I am imagining Lu as a dominatrix…not a nice vision. She’s probably a switch. (That means they take turns in who is the dom or sub.). Yes, this may be a bit much, but my mind wandered. 😮 Help!

        • Princess of Strogonoff

          You seem to understand very well the S&M…it makes me wonder….

          • Real Sandy⛱

            Then you must be an expert. 😉

            • Aunt Bee

              LOL AWARD to R Sandy

            • Princess of Strogonoff

              Probably, but I don´t walk around passing judgement and pretending I am different…You just outed yourself as a dominatrix

              LMAO !!!

              • Aunt Bee

                I hope you are a really nice person and just say these off the wall comments to make us laugh. After all the comments you made about our Sandy you sound very judgmental to me. Have a good day Princess.

                • Daisy

                  I totally agree Aunt Bee and to add Sandy is one of the nicest people I have ever encountered

                  • Aunt Bee

                    Thank you Daisy. R Sandy has also helped me with good advice in my personal life too. She is a good friend.

                    • Daisy

                      Hugs Aunt Bee . I hope you’re doing good and have a wonderful day

                    • Real Sandy⛱

                      Aunt Bee, you are such great friend I met here at All Things.
                      You are so admirable in your life and as a person in every way. You have a strong faith and moral character that is so apparent in your words, and you care. I feel honored to know you.
                      XOXOXOXO

                    • Aunt Bee

                      Thank you Sandy. You know I feel the same way about you. There are so many wonderful people here. Thank you all.

                    • Real Sandy⛱

                      ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

                  • Real Sandy⛱

                    You are too kind Daisy and a pleasure to know. I love you and Aunt Bee and Suze, and 3D’s and Rain, and starr, and so many more here.
                    You are awesome! Thank you. Xoxox

                    • Daisy

                      Same to you Sandy dear . I must say I can tell the level of your intelligence by your wonderful come backs

                    • Real Sandy⛱

                      Thanks, Daisy. I am not too great at the comebacks, but I do try to be respectful as much as possible. I am not here to fight and don’t need added stressors in my life. I do, however, appreciate all the wonderful people I am lucky enough to interact with here at this site who are as lovely as you, Daisy. It makes my day!
                      I hope you have a wonderful day. I know that you and your hubby are much relieved. Relax and enjoy. 😉 Thanks again. XO

                    • Daisy

                      Sandy, you are going through a lot right now and no you do not need any added stress . I do think you have great come backs and they are always intelligent and respectful . You and your hubby are in my prayers

                • 🙂

              • Real Sandy⛱

                Ha! LMAO You are funny, Princess. You say I am passing judgment, and yet that is all that you do! I never once said that you could not spell stroganoff before either…until now. 😉
                I hope you know how to make it. Maybe you can attach a recipe. 😉
                Oh, maybe I am a submissive and not a dominant. How on earth do you know so much if you are not a dominatrix yourself? You seem to like that word. I could say the same about you that you said about me, since your behavior is more dominant than submissive online.
                It is not all about sadism and masochism here, but about a dominant attitude of one who is control over another who is better at being dominated by others without complaining about it, and maybe even liking it. I was not talking about bondage, discipline, etc.Did I ever want to be tied up? Do you? Does that make you kinky? There are certainly levels of kinky too.
                I never even read 50 Shades of Gray. I just stay informed.
                Have a great day, Princess of internet trolling. 😉

                • Princess of Strogonoff

                  Oops…..I hit a raw nerve…sorry !

                  • Real Sandy ⛱

                    Maybe there is just too much Sour cream in your Stroganoff?! 😉

                    • Daisy

                      Good one Sandy. Not everyone can be a classy lady like you

                    • Real Sandy⛱

                      ❤️❤️❤️

                    • Daisy, there was no button under your post about Sandy having class. So, I put it as close as I could get it. She DOES have class, as do you and so many here. I can’t name them, as my brain is not turned on yet & I never fail to forget to name someone important. But you all know who you are. 🙂 I am getting ready to eat my BK, that will start the brain engine.

                    • Real Sandy⛱

                      Was that a Whopper? 🙂 Yum!

                    • Daisy

                      3D’S. I hope this falls in the right place. You also have a ton of class and have such a brilliant mind. I often find myself envious of your gift with words. Can’t forget about your spunk. You are a lady I would not want to tangle with. If bk is burger king yummy count me in

                    • Rain

                      This message is for 3Ds! Since you don’t post on OC , I thought i would catch you here . How are you sweetie? I hope all is well ❤️
                      Since you’re a Kyle fan, I wanted to share this story with you. Kylie was with Erika (no other HWs) in Greece for a big gay festival, erika was performing there. There are quite a few pics and vids on two twitter and Instagram. They seem to be having a great time . I’ve been saying since last season that these 2 are close (based on them social media) but that never was shown on the show for some reason. Maybe becuae Bravo was pushing the ‘Team Yolanda and Ericka’ and the ‘team LVP and Kyle’ drama . Anyways, I don’t know if this trip will be shown on the next season of RHOBH or not , since there were no other HWs, at least non in all the pics . I think it’s sweet and it made me happy ❤️❤️❤️

        • I agree Sandy. I think they BOTH think the other one has money, and I find that kind of funny. Neither of them are truly wealthy. Luann was when she was a countess. But, now with both kids reaching majority, no more child support, and no more spousal support. Now, I would like to see Luann WORK. That is one thing that kinda shows that Bethenny doesn’t say facetious things. She could easily say, and it would be true, that she herself has always worked, and Luann has NEVER worked. Not since they knew each other. I always wondered what it would be like to not have any passion for anything. I mean, Bethenny has passion for her business, Ramona even has some for making her own money. But what is Luann passionate about? Being married so she can again have no passion for anything but what others see? How empty life would be.

          • Real Sandy⛱

            Luann is passionate about being financially secure maybe. She sees combined assets better than just hers alone, perhaps. Also she may fear being older and alone, especially now that she may have an empty nest as well.
            She did model at one time after a brief stint as a locensed practical nurse and was also a co host of an Italian soccer show at one time. I think she just wants to party and live the good life; a bon vivant. She does have the Housewives to keep her busy too.

            • Real Sandy⛱

              L.P.N. Licensed..in CT.

            • Oh, I absolutely see her as needing to be married, but MORE than financially secure, she needs to be rich. There is a vast chasm between financial security in her world and mine. Also, it is 15 times more expensive to live in the Upper East Side of Manhattan than in rural Reno, Nevada. That’s for sure. But it is all relative.
              What I meant was she has never seemed to have a true passion for anything. Not a particular charity, not for a certain political view, no advocacy for anything. I mean, I have had money, and then I spent my money on the only thing that matters in life. Not the kind of money she needs, but what I consider to be a pretty respectable nest egg. The money was only important in that it was used for something important. Not for others to know of or be aware of. The money, in itself, was infinitesimal in it’s value as anything other than what it was needed for. And still, the money I still have is used for the same things, it is only important to me in that it can make hardships in the moment easier, for example, for my children. They all work hard, support themselves well & they do not come to me for money. But, when my Daughter has an infection for a month, and she is worried she forgot her insurance card and needs surgery that day, my role is, in that context, to tell her that is something she need not concern herself with. That is the very last thing, if at all, that she needs to even think about. In that context, the money, again, is only meaningful in that it removes that worry from her mind.
              I guess Luann has a certain passion for being a socialite. Being a countess, even, must have had it’s requirements, one would think, as to being involved in community and charity. Not simply to be SEEN at the event. To be PART of what the event stands for.
              It would be for me, a life full of nothingness. Devoid of anything meaningful. But, then, that is my outside view. I enjoyed seeing her jumping up and down on that yacht, that was kind of cute. But it was the fact that she could SHOW others that she had friends with yachts that impassioned her. It was all about SHOW. Not about SOUL.

              • Real Sandy⛱

                I don’t know enough about her personally to know what she does, but on the show she never has shown any passion for anything but her flings with whomever wherever and for Jacques and now Tom. 😉

                • 🙂 ❤️

                  • Melodie

                    Lu got very lucky to marry money. Her life with the count was VERY LUCRATIVE. She had no limits. Im also not sure whether she had money from family or work she has never brought that up on the show. I do know that she got a sweet deal in the divorce. Those kids were not adults yet so child support and alimony or a family stipend possibly.
                    Im sure that Alex was paying for the private schools, the trips and everything else she does. 16 years is a long time being married to a count. can we say stinking rich! She does just fine.

                    • Real Sandy⛱

                      Well, if the alimony is great, then maybe marrying another is not a good idea for that reason alone. Granted she has a fashion line of her own, but the Count has provided well for her it seems. The kids are grown now too. She sold her Hamptons estate for a lot and maybe invested some more, so she is not poor in the least. I don’t know it all, but what is posted out there is that her net worth is 2 million. That may be far off, but that can be used up rather quickly if someone is used to spending in a big way. JMO

          • Princess of Strogonoff

            LuAnn is passionate about having sex with as many guys as she can, probably at the same time, and enjoying life….something so many women here would love to do but cannot or don´t dare to

            • Real Sandy⛱

              Sometimes I actually think you are the Countess or Countless or whatever Luann calls herself these days. You always feel the need for a title.
              If someone wants to have many sexual partners, and I am certain that there are maybe more than a few here who could if they wanted to and maybe even did when they were younger, but that is not judging them either. It is not about wanting what Luann has when it comes to a love life. She can do whatever she wants. It is her choice. She is a grown woman.
              Yet, you seem to be failing to notice what is actually being said here which is quite reasonable really. When Aunt Bee was discussing how she was concerned about the women perhaps getting sexually transmitted diseases, it was out of concern, and it was not a vicious attack. I said I think they don’t think about it. They are maybe not informed enough. It is not in their mindset.
              As I have written in the past, there is a group of people who are more affected by HIV and the numbers are rising according to the CDC, and that group is women who are in their 50s and older who are out in the dating world after not being in it for many years because they had a steady relationship. They are not as concerned about STDs like HIV, for example, since it was not a thing of their youth. (You could always get penicillin for the most common sexually transmitted disease back in the day.) HIV did not exist amongst heterosexuals…yet. People worried about getting hepatitis from blood transfusions (and contact with blood or stool from a contaminated person) and not AIDS back then. You did not risk death as a result of sleeping with the wrong person. That is not to say that sleeping around and “free love” as it was known back in the day was not and is not risky, yet it is more risky today than ever. Also, there are herpetic infections, etc. It just is something to worry about and not attack someone about if they bring it up. It should not make you feel better about yourself by doing so.
              Get tested and insist your partner is as well, and though ignorance is bliss, it can hurt others if you spread infection. That is a general statement and not directly stated to you.

              • Real Sandy⛱

                I meant that if someone wants multiple partners, and they are adults, they can do what they like if it is consensual. It just is risky behavior. That is the truth. I am not judging, but only stating the truth.

  • Princess of Strogonoff

    Now….people casting stones….hilarious

  • Ricky Lee Jones

    Tom was the storyline for both Lu and Sonja this season so the man should get a nice wedding gift from her lol.

    • Princess of Strogonoff

      He’ll be a Douche…from the Royal House of Bagg…so he’ll become The DoucheBagg

  • Melodie

    Sonja cannot have it both ways or three ways or four ways…whatever. First she is crying because Tom has decided for whatever reason to be with Lu. Ok fine. Whatever happened previous to that engagement is just the past. Sonja talks ALL the TIME about her so called “Friends with Benefits” that to me shows she just wants to get laid. I don’t see her making mature comments like.. I can’t wait to find my prince charming” These chicks have standards that they just cannot achieve. They are in their 50’s it’s not like they are 33 and got a divorce because they lost in the stock market. Jesus Sonja wants an old man oh no she wants a young man…. oh no now she needs someone her own age. He does need to be financially secure because Sonja has no money. She wants a sugar daddy who want to have sex with her and not ask questions about the booty calls she has in the middle of the night. Anyone know any of those.
    Whatever happened to just finding a really nice guy who works are and LOVES YOU TO DEATH. When these girls come up with all these reasons they cannot date these men they limit themselves and also are using away some very nice men who could want to treat their women like princesses.
    If your going to be picky at their age they then there is no chance for them. Carole is a good example of someone who is self assured, honest and she can stand on her own two feet. She loves Adam but she is not going to push for a ring and a date. She loves the way they are right now and if and when she and he are ready ok. All the others are so jealous and really act like children. It must be something like a date I had in my sophomore year… I went to a party and was going to meet my date there and by the time I got there he had already hit on my friend. Who cares I ended up finding my prince charming…. And no I did not go off crying in the bathroom.
    Someone made a statement recently….. these women are chosen for a specific reason… either they are great actresses or they are all really f’d UP.

  • moriah

    She wants Tom to make her feel special all of a sudden when he’s between women as one of several f–ck buddies for 10 long years. Why did she make herself so available for so long to a guy who had no serious interest in her? Didn’t she ever notice in the last 10 years that she wasn’t ever special to him at all except in her own mind? Now she thinks he has to say she was special to him when she wasn’t?

    • Melodie

      Your spot on Moriah… it;s almost like Sonja thinks he (Tom) should have asked her permission first before he proposed to Lu. It;s none of her business. Unfortunately Sonja is not the sharpest pencil in the drawer. She actually sees herself as this glamorous jet setting woman and feels that ALL the men she takes up with want her so badly. They can’t keep their hands off of her. The sad part is that these guys only see her as a piece of tail. They may be friends with benefits as she calls them…. I wonder if she feels that when these guys are not with her they are thinking about when they can be with her. Those guys are just doing the same thing to many other women. There is no respect here at all. If she ever got a hint that she looks so needy and is delusional about how these men feel she would be mortified. But that is what makes Sonja who she is. She blocks all the stuff that makes her look sleazy and turns it in to “All men just want me” DELUSIONAL —- Thank you Kristen.

  • patricia

    I saw Sonja on the WWHL show the other day, & she is so beautiful. She seems like she has gotten it together. Cutting back on her drinking looks good on her.

  • Coochie-Coochie

    What´s wrong with having a f*ckbuddy ?

    Lighten up, ladies !!!….Live a little !!

  • Trixiebelle

    I feel for Sonja. But LuAnn is very territorial and desperate. Personally, she really blew it with Jacques. That guy was adorable and she wasn’t very faithful to him (remember Johnnie Depp in St. Barts?) … anyway, This Tom guy seems like an opportunist to me. I don’t think this marriage is going to be very long. If they make it to four years I’ll be surprised.

    • Michelle

      Yeah I’m with you on this too, Trixiebelle. I like Sonja very much, crazy as she is. I think Tom treated her pretty badly. No matter what, she didn’t deserve the dismissal the way it happened. It still hurts.