Sonja Morgan Excluded From Girl’s Trip to Berkshires

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Sonja Morgan is still feeling the effects from announcing her new Prosecco line called Tipsy Girl. On this week’s episode of the Real Housewives of New York City, Morgan was excluded from a trip to the Berkshires with the other women, because Bethenny Frankel was still upset with her over her brand that she calls a “cheater brand.”

Dorinda was the one who disinvited Sonja to the gathering in the Berkshires, but Sonja just didn’t understand why she was being singled out. She said she felt like it was “choosing sides.” She told her new roommate LuAnn, “The girls love me at parties, I’m the one making out with everyone.”

During the trip, when everyone wasn’t talking about Morgan, they were talking about LuAnn’s new man Tom and the fact that he had a past with Ramona Singer.

They also discussed the previous fight Ramona and Dorinda had when Singer was kicked out of John Mahdessian’s party, after Mahdessian kicked out one of de Lessep’s ex-boyfriends for his apparently ridiculous and inappropriate behavior. Ramona said that Rey was a fun, strange guy who she thought used to date de Lesseps (as though she did not know or witness any of said guy’s behavior at the party that night).

Next, it was Bethenny’s turn to call out LuAnn. Frankel outed de Lesseps’ relationship with Tom, in front of Ramona, and she brought up de Lesseps’ earlier claim to have helped think up Frankel’s Skinnygirl empire.

What did you think of this week’s episode?

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  • apple

    Dorinda is claiming she did it to protect Sonja…from Bethenny, I assume….and probably it was a good idea the way Bethenny took into Lu Ann 30 seconds after she arrived. If Bethenny is refusing to film with Sonja…and Bravo is allowing that…I guess you know who I think should be excluded.
    Here’s a fun game….name one event…including her own…that Bethenny has not ruined this season.

    • apple

      and one more thing… I am a dog person….for heaven’s sake …train these dogs.
      If you can’t figure it out, hire a trainer and/or a dog walker.

      • Suze☕️

        Apple totally agree. Bethenny has ruined this season for me and I’m done with it, I can’t watch her again, She drives me crazy! Xoxoxo

        • apple

          I used to be a fan…but geez…this is just uncomfortable to watch.

    • Danielle

      Oh my gosh. I feel like Bethenny must be really beaten down by life despite being so successful. She seems so bitter. She says all of these mean things about everyone- Jules, Dorinda, Sonja, LuAnne, Ramona. Ok, so she talks bad about everyone besides the boring one who is up her ass lol. She compared LuAnne to Courtney Love, and laughed in her face in front of everyone. I want to like Bethenny for being a kick ass woman, but she’s playing into the “bitch” character too much.

      • apple

        …and when she got all her “real” friends to hate Jules before they even met her at her Christmas Party.
        I think strong (“kick ass” ) women are secure enough to invite people into their homes and then not prey on them when they come. I also felt sorry for “Elsa”….that poor girl was “dramatized” on prime time TV.

      • Danielle

        I mean, I don’t think LuAnne is mentor material, but Bethenny didn’t need to be such a bitch about it. It’s pretty easy to listen to people’s dumb comments and let it go! Just keep your mouth closed and let the idiots be idiots, she doesn’t need to be the judge and jury.

        • apple

          ITA, Danielle…but since Lady Morgan lives in the fictional version of her life…what anyone says really matters little…and at least Lu Ann didn’t just abandon her.

    • One Rotten Egg

      @apple–Bethany wasn’t at John’s event where Ramona made a fool of herself. Agree with you about the dog poop. Shame on Bravo even filming an animal’s excrement coming out of its poophole.

      • apple

        And that is probably the only reason she didn’t…I wonder if she was invited.
        If Ramona wasn’t, probably Bethenny wasn’t either.

    • PJ

      Bethenny did not ruin Dorinda’s bra party. That was done by John, who showed up uninvited. Also, Dorinda started screaming at Ramona, not Bethenny.

      • Penny

        Felt to me like B ruined the party. At least Ramona finally shut her stupid mouth but B just wouldn’t let go and screeches like a stuck pig. It’s because she CAN’T. B cannot control her viscious rage.

      • apple

        Oh…I disagree. Bethenny decided the perfect time to discuss the host’s relationship with her man was at her party in front of all her guests (and the viewers) under her usual pretense of just “keeping it real”.
        John and Ramona are a different issue…and their behavior does not excuse Bethenny’s.

  • patricia

    I really like Dorinda, but I don’t think she should have excluded Sonja. She should have told everyone to put their grievances aside & if they couldn’t then not to come to her home. She should have layed some ground rules.

    • apple

      I agree and it surprised me, because I don’t think Dorinda works that way. But I think Bethenny may have refused to come if Sonja was invited…and Dorinda decided that maybe it would be best to leave her out…because Ramona probably would have ripped into her even if Bethenny stayed home.

  • Bon Vivant

    Sonja not being there is the absolute best thing that could have happened to her that weekend. These broads detect weakness like a shark takes to blood in the water and at the very least I’m sure Ramona would have tried to pop something off and lead the charge to have her shrinking and shivering in a corner by nightfall.

    Sonja dodged a bullet for now and I think Doris’s foresight was on point. Even with her own meltdowns, Dorinda can at least go toe to toe with the rest of the bunch and rip out a metaphorical eyeball when she needs to. Sonja cannot.

    • That’s very possible and I’m definitely not in the know, but I tend to believe that Dorinda could have blocked Sonja out of protection, and let’s face it, lack of tolerance. On the other hand, I’ll never believe that Ramona coaster has Sonja’s best interest at heart and is secretly reveling in getting more air time than Sonja this season.

  • PJ

    So, Luann is going around telling people that she’s the brains behind SkinnyGirl and Bethenny’s supposed to take it?

    At least Bethenny sticks to her guns. She called Luann a snake years ago and she hasn’t changed her mind.

    • Penny

      I think Lu just says it to rattle Boneygirl. And it works every time. I think it’s funny.

    • apple

      Please…no one should be walking through life telling everyone they know what they do not like about them…and the fact that Bethenny has consistently been doing that from the first season is not a justification.

    • PJ

      Well, I happen to like it. Especially when it’s directed at someone like Luann who happens to act like she’s better than everyone else. Luann has been passive/agressive towards Bethenny for many years. B is just giving it back to her.

  • Penny

    Nasty hateful bitter Beth needs to be knocked out.
    LOVE how Luann can stand up to he . Luann rattles Beth and gets her foaming at the mouth. Speaking of; Boney girl clearly has had plastic surgery on her formerly massive jaw. It’s 2016 and the slut shaming still goes on? If she was a man it wouldn’t be a story line. Boney girl calling for Sonja to be iced out is pathetic. So slimey. Boney girl’s hate knows no bounds, she’s full to the brim and simply cannot contain it. It’s painful to watch and she needs to go.
    Dorinda is a huge disappointment, giving in to the mean girl’s demand to ice Sonja. Ramona’s dog shitting on the floor is a visual of what Ramona herself does to people. Esp to her so-called friends.

  • GIGICAT

    What an episode.
    1. Why do people have to bring their dogs with them everywhere? Especially when they are not house-trained?
    2. Something is wrong with B. She is turning ugly and mean.
    3. LuAnn knows how to give it back. Good for her.
    4. Sonia needs to grow up. Nobody wants to watch a 50+ year old woman “make-out” with strangers at parties. How pathetic for attention. I think Dorinda did the right thing.
    5. Carole needs to stop talking about Jules behind her back. Jealous?
    6. Ramona has to be on some sort of meds that do not mix with alcohol.
    7. Dorinda has an on/off switch that borderlines on an inch or so away from violence.
    8. Jules needs to stop already with playing the airhead. The “I don’t know where we are on a map” is not anything I’d say out loud actually when there was navigation in that truck. She must like being thought of as an idiot.

    Other than that, it was the same ole, same ole.

  • I think the reason that Ramona did not pick up her dog poop is because Ramona thinks she is too good to do such a thing. I can not for the life of me figure out why Ramona thinks she is so great. I think she is awful, I would never have anything to do with her.

    • Danielle

      I agree! I noticed that she made Dorinda clean in it up- if It was my dog there is NO WAY I’d make our host clean up after that! She should’ve taken Coco for a walk when they got there. Ramona is a trashy woman with money and arrogance.

    • PJ

      Ramona was oblivious to what her dog did. She actually said “How was I supposed to know there was dog poop in the yard.” She actually thought she stepped in it outside Dorinda’s house. Oblivious.

  • I felt bad for Sonja, no one wants to be excluded from a party, or anything for that matter. It did seem Dorinda was choosing sides. I understand that Dorinda’s Berkshires’ home is her ” sanctuary,” & wants to keep it a Zen place.

    My motto is I invite everyone, & if someone has issue with another; they can either be cordial,; work it out ,; or simply, stay home.

    Side note, Coco! Didn’t need to see her ” Sho
    Show!”. Just shows us that Ramona is to self absorbed. She should have taken Coco to the bathroom before entering Dorinda’ s house.

    Next week looks juicy! Let the reading commence!

  • I don’t think Bethenny asked Dorinda not to invite Sonja. I am so curious why Ramona was there, to be honest. I think every lady there has a personal thing going on, big personal stuff. I think Luann, who I dislike very much, was trying to “countess” everyone with speaking of Sonja at all. She is always trying to school everyone, and I think Bethenny just got really, really FED UP. Luann has been telling people for years that they (her and B) were together when skinnygirl was invented. Which is almost funny since the night Bethenny picked Luann up at her NY townhouse, that she lost after the Count left her, they went to a nice bar/club/restaurant and Bethenny ordered a skinny margarita, told the waiter or waitress what was in it, repeated it to Luann when Luann asked, and Luann said she would have the same. That is when B said she thought Luann was cool that she just, without ever having tried one, said she would try it.
    Every lady at that party has something goin’ on in their life. When they all got into the same room, it was like pouring vinegar on baking soda, it just bubbled up and everyone was in it. Ramona was being a bitch about someone she calls a friend, Sonja. Bethenny has never been close friends with Sonja and what Sonja did and does with her “businesses” was no threat to Bethenny or her business. B is simply personally pissed off about it.
    *Dorinda* has John, the death of her husband still weighs on her heart, ( I know, 4 years, believe me there is no therapy for grief, after the 5 stupid steps, the person has still passed away ) She has the stuff with John, big stuff with him and all of the girls and him…. the stuff with her Daughter, the absolute crappy way Ramona has treated her.
    *Luann* has her usual very promiscuous ways, which even though she tries to hide, there are and have always been whispers. Even Sonja jokes about it. She is also having financial problems, which is really why she does not have a place in the city, because she can not afford a place in the city or she wouldn’t have let go of her place on the West Side, which she is trying to hide from everyone.
    *Ramona,* who is a total bitch, and speaks out of her ass most of the time, has an opinion about everyone and everything, and thinks she is always right. Her divorce is quite new and whether she wants it to be known or not, it has affected her deeply. She is simply low class and always has been. She treats people she calls friend (Bethenny from way back, Sonja, Luann and now Dorinda) awful. She talks about them behind their back and then gives that oh so fake apology when truthfully she doesn’t even realize what a joke she is.
    *Jules,* oh wow. Let’s start with the fact that she doesn’t even seem to be able to take care of 2 children. She does not work outside the home and she has trouble rearing her own kids. It is ok if they are late for school, an hour or an hour and a half because “they pay the school” and the school needs their money. I could go on & on here, but just one thing, what about their EDUCATION, teaching them how to behave in a group, to be polite, how much it interferes with the actual class room when they come stumbling in whenever she sees fit to get them there. Then, she goes to a bra party, says the argument is among “the elderly” and that even tho they are not her Mom they could be. Well, that would have made Bethenny 10, Ramona maybe 16, Dorinda 16 etc., so not only are they not “elderly” or in need of menopausal medication, it was an ignorant thing to say. Her little boy seems to have an ear infection and is crying in the car and she says “what do you want me to do ?” She is 34 and been married 8 years and she can’t make coffee. And my favorite part: when Dorinda is telling the story at Jule’s and Michael’s house, about Ramona at the bra party turning against her,
    (Don’t forget now, Jules is Jewish ) and her husband refers to the BIBLE STORY about Ceasar “E tu` Brutis” and she can not remember that part of the MOVIE. I want to like the girl, but am having a little trouble here.
    *Bethenny* is yes, a little more than a little blunt. She as been seeing Luann effing her way around New York for several years now and I think at Dorinda’s table, she kind of blew. She has mentioned this behavior to Luann a few times, it is a known fact among those who are in the society in New York that Luann is a little more than “promiscuous” and parties and drinks anywhere and everywhere, and goes to bed with everyone and anyone, and when Luann said she was mentoring Sonja, it was just too much for Bethenny and she started laughing. That was her real laugh, and I almost felt the humor and the absolute absurdity that Luann would be able to mentor anyone, but specifically in this farcical situation.

    • Danielle

      I agree with you on everything with the exception of two things- I feel like LuAnne has become a less countess-y bitch since her divorce and I think she brought up Sonja not being there because she was actually being loyal to her friend/landlord. Second thing, I don’t think Cesar was in the Bible. I could be wrong, but I don’t quite get the comment about her being Jewish, the Bible and Cesar and Brutus. Ya lost me there. Everything else- on point . Bethenny is a bitch, but Ramona is just the worst!

      • Well, my point was that there are certainly references of Julius Caesar in the Bible, in which Jesus was mentioned, in Luke and Mathew, and it is a Biblical story, with it’s beginnings in Roman Politics and a Biblical story. It struck me as more than odd that her comment was that she forgot that part of the movie, is all. The Jewish Faith seemingly a central part of her life and their family life, one would think, or this one person, being me, would think the story of Julius Caesar and Brutus would have some meaning in her life, if not the very least, her spiritual life. But Caesar is in the Bible in Mathew. The story’s origins are Biblical is all I meant.

    • PJ

      Jules has to be playing. No one is that uneducated are they? Oh, and what’s the definition of gossip? I thought gossip was spreading lies about someone? Carole and Bethenny were talking about Jules and the fact that she’ll remind you numerous times that she’s Asian or Jewish. Well, she wasn’t in the door 5 minutes and she’s yakking about the Asian flush.

      Women have a hard enough time gaining equality in this world. We don’t need people like her taking us back 100 years.

  • Penny

    I’ll take Jules and whatever her faults may be over B and Carole anyday. Esp B, being so full of hatred and vomiting it out every time she opens her fugly mouth.
    I’m sick of the slut shaming. If Lu was a man it would barely be mentioned.

    • I wasn’t “slut shaming” Luann, I didn’t even use the word, if in fact you are responding to me. Luann isn’t a man, and I have said the same thing, many times about the lack of virtue of men on the shows. Luann has throughout the seasons chided other women for behavior that she exhibits herself. Carole and Adam’s relationship is a good example of the way she speaks about the decisions other women make about their sex lives. I see loose women and men in the same exact category, loose with their sex lives. And for Luann to pretend that she was somehow celibate before Tom is ludicrous. During the seasons, her scenes with Bethenny have occasionally leaned toward this topic, and it seems to me, that she puts herself above others. Also, I don’t really see how having a man or men being given a label of promiscuity as having anything to do with whether a lady is promiscuous. Old fashioned tho it may seem, I still see women ( ladies ) to be the caretakers of exemplary behavior.
      I don’t personally see Bethenny as hateful at all. She might have a little hostility in there, that rears it’s ugly head now and then. IMO, Ramona is the most hateful one in the bunch.
      I really did think Bethenny was seriously fed up with Luann’s pretentious, self important attitude, and she started laughing, which in turn made it so that she almost couldn’t stop herself. I haven’t seen her be that way very many times actually, and the more haughty Luann got about it, the funnier it seemed to Bethenny. I thought it rather funny myself.

      • PJ

        Yes, the Countess likes to pretend she’s above it all when really, she’s down there with the rest of the mere mortals. She was all over Carole about a guy who was none of her business, yet girl code didn’t apply to her dating an ex of Ramona’s. Double standard.

        • And let’s not forget the Johnny Depp look-a-like wherever it was they were that time. She totally stepped out on Jaque with whom she had a long time, “exclusive relationship”, and tried to cover it up speaking in that ridiculous Italian? conversation where she was trying to get help covering it up with some girlfriend afterwards. She had that story about meeting a bunch of Italian people and inviting them back, then just coincidentally the Depp look-a-like shows up the next night too? COME ON, PUULLLEEEZZZEE.
          Hey, I coud give a rats ass who she screws around with, but don’t put on airs about what it means to be a lady and school everyone on mentoring Sonja. As I said before, not that anyone should care either what I think about it, but I believe Bethenny simply blew. She just could not hold it in any longer! I really don’t think she was trying to be insulting, but she has seen with her own eyes what Luann does, and listened to this BS for years now. I recall a few scenes, like during season 3 where Luann was being insulting and catty and mean, and Bethenny was the target of it all, having to listen to the demeaning little remarks about the little Skinnygirl Volkswagen Bethenny had just been given. Luann’s constant opinion about the fall out between Jill Zarin and Bethenny. I think Luann is so jealous of Bethenny her head is about to explode.
          Now Luann’s son is off to college, so things have changed. Now this is not anything I have read or have any personal knowledge of, but common sense dictates that now that her son is of age, the Count is no longer required to pay child support, and I would think spousal support either. One of Luann’s taglines was that she never felt guilty about being privileged. I also have no knowledge of where she came from minus the State of Connecticut. If she came from money it is news to me. But I do know that she has never mentioned her “family” in relation to some kind of ancestral lineage. And I am sure as I am standing here, that if she had such a background, we would have heard about it. So, the privilege came from her marriage, which she no longer has any connection to through her children as far as “privilege” goes. This puts her in a situation she knew was coming. I have never seen Luann work, I think someone said she has a jewelry line or something, but I am pretty sure it wouldn’t pay the rent on the $9,000.00 to $22,000.00 rental properties she looked at. Which may I say was a shock to my system.

    • apple

      I agree… I was impressed when Jules tried to tell another side of Ramona’s version of John’s party… even though Ramona stepped all over her to prevent that from happening…she tried and more than once. I am much more interested in a person’s character than whether of not they can quote Shakespeare. Jules is a little goofy, but I think that may be mostly her sense of humor and Bethenny has little room to be calling anyone else a slut. I loved that LuAnn didn’t back down and I hope she continues to scream right back at Bethenny in the next episode. Somebody needs to.

      • apple

        This was to Penny.

  • Penny

    Maybe Jules gets flustered being around foaming-at-the-mouth B and nasty, sniping mouthed Carole. Then there’s stupid drunk Ramona. Add a Dorinda rage and I’d get flustered. Esp B’s out of control hatred. Its really shocking how ugly it gets. They’ve always acted out of line but this season B is gets so crazy enraged, I’d be worried about Her Bitchiness flying across the table and tearing someone’s limbs right the hell off… then gnawing on their flesh. lol