LuAnn de Lesseps Isn’t Sure Bethenny Has the Right Motives


LuAnn de Lesseps is admitting she lost her temper with Ramona Singer during this week’s episode of the Real Housewives of New York City. In her blog, Lu says she had reached her breaking point with Ramona making 1-2 dates with Tom into something it wasn’t. de Lesseps was also fed up with Sonja’s rude comments about her party guests and couldn’t believe there was more drama when she got to Miami. But she’s not sure if Bethenny’s heart is in the right place with the information she has about Tom.

“It’s one thing to rock the boat and another to sink the ship. In this episode, we are celebrating my engagement to Tom on my friend’s yacht in Palm Beach. I had a lot of fun with the girls even though Ramona and Sonja wouldn’t stop obsessing about Tom. I felt bad that I lost my temper with Ramona, but I’d had enough of her making a couple of dates with Tom into something it wasn’t. As for Sonja, I understand that in the past she enjoyed Tom’s company and their friendship, and I want them to still be friends…just different kinds of friends!

Sonja’s rude comments about my party guests shows that while she’s cordial on the outside, on the inside she’s angry with me for taking Tom off the market. I invited an eclectic group of friends: gay, straight, socialites and silver foxes, and everyone had a great time, even Sonja who had fun chatting up a bachelor friend of mine. I loved watching Ramona dance to her own drummer and Jules working the bar like a pro! Tom enjoyed the night as well, and he was blissfully unaware that Ramona and Sonja were still focusing on him. That’s why I love him! His comment to Ramona about smelling like a grapefruit was innocent, and he was trying to be nice. I can assure you, the only gazing Tom did across the room that night was at me!

The next day was supposed to start in a very chill way with breakfast on deck yet ended up with me having to set Ramona straight about how she was going to act if she was to remain my guest. I did apologize to her and she to me, but the last time I checked, we live in a country with free press, and that press sometimes gets the facts wrong. That’s why there’s a thing called a retraction, which Ramona could have requested when the Post said she was Tom’s longtime friend rather than Sonja. I’ve known Ramona for a long time and we move past these disagreements, yet I wish she would think before she speaks. Am I asking too much of her?

Jules’ conversation that morning with her nanny and her kids was sweet, but her talk with Michael was pretty unpleasant. She grew up with wonderful parents and she expects Michael to be with their kids when she travels like her father was with her. It appears that he sent his kids to the Hamptons while staying back in the city, and I don’t think that this is so much of their problem as that Jules and Michael aren’t on the same page when it comes to their kids. Never a good thing.

We left Palm Beach after breakfast and headed down to Miami for the rest of the weekend. As usual, there was room drama but I was more interested in having a bite to eat and relaxing. When I arrived, I went to see how Bethenny was feeling and our conversation was very weird. Why would she ask if Tom and I are monogamous? We are engaged to be married! I felt like Bethenny was being very coy with me, not mean, not argumentative, but coy and it unsettled me. We’ve all had situations where we had to decide whether or not to tell a friend about something we’ve heard, and every situation is different. I’m still unsure if Bethenny’s heart is in the right place.”

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LuAnn, Bethenny’s heart is not in the right place. She is self absorbed and a narcissist who thinks she is co-producing the RHONYC with Andy Cohen. Andy and Bethenny think they have a ratings hit, so she is going to over-act all season. Watch out Bethenny, the fans are turning on you and look what happened to Aviva. If this cheating incident happened to your sidekick Carole, you would NEVER tell the other girls first knowing they didnt support the union, followed by telling her on camera. Who died and made you God? You might tell consider telling LuAnn off-camera… Read more »

Well said

Agree with you! If it were Carol’s boyfriend instead of Luanne’s, Bethanny would never mentioned a word. For that matter with all her flaws neither would Luanne. She doesn’t have that need to cut…go for blood and humiliate that Bethanny has.

Ok, if it were Luann, she would INDEED have mentioned it to Carole. Did you see the show last year or read her incessant social media attacks? They was unscrupulously vicious on Luann’s behalf, and showed that she will stoop to any level of attack to maintain a central storyline and not lose her place on this show. I lost respect for Luann big time last season once she showed how malicious she could be.

Oh my GOSH, Thank you for reminding me about that grapefruit bullshit. I didn’t see him flirting with her and they certainly didn’t show anything on tv. Carole later said that he was flirting with Ramona all night and if he did, it certainly wasn’t on camera. The other crock was that back dated clipping of him originally meeting Ramona and friends at a bar. I KNEW I had seen him back then but couldn’t be sure. He was hitting on her girlfriends and wasn’t even nice to her that night. BRAVO and Ramona…stop peeing on our boots and telling… Read more »
Bethenny doesn’t have a heart or a conscience, either. Luann knows about Bethenny’s affair with Dennis Shields, which has been ongoing while he was married to B’s friend, Jill S. B & D were sleeping together when Dennis and Jill took Bethenny out to dinner. He was still very married. B has been seeing Dennis for over a year when he was very married. Who does Beth think she’s fooling? Blind Item has been posting this affair for awhile now. A friend of Jill’s says, “she’s devastated.” Jill didn’t have a clue. The one that really doesn’t have a clue… Read more »
That is how nasty rumors that are nasty lies go, Anonymouse. It isn’t B’s “friend” she knew her in high school, they were acquaintances, nothing more. Dennis is separated and has been for some time, as was she before her divorce was finally settled. I usually never respond to someone with no name, being as you haven’t got the guts to pick a handle to be known by. Before people are divorced, and are separated, it is perfectly moral to see someone else, the marriage is over, not just in the mind of the one seeing someone, but publicly OVER.… Read more »

Oh, and regurgitating old rumors shows you haven’t even had the presence of mind to find a new rumor to lie about, whoever you are.
To those here with names, I only write posts in this tone to nobodies.

You sound very sad and angry . FYI everyone is someone . To refer to anybody as a nobody is just cruel

Awwwwww. Pick a name so you can be identified.

Stop being a bully. Is it a crime to keep your name to yourself so that internet weirdos like you remain so unfulfilled? No it isn’t.

Internet weirdos, OMG. Not to worry, no one is looking for anyone here who can’t even come up with a handle. It isn’t our “names” usually, and even if it was, believe me, you aren’t interesting enough to stalk, even if I knew how. It is always funny when a person makes a small insult, even like what I said, and then the next person calls me out by trying to insult me. Funny how that is, isn’t it? Again, not to worry, I am not insulted. Bullies were who I saw in Catholic school 50 years ago, and weirdos… Read more »
What’s the big deal about picking a handle on this site? It’s not the first I’ve seen that complaint and it baffles me. Is there some rigorous verification process one has to go by to type on this site, because all I see are simple field boxes that can be filled and changed at any given time, so who cares? Heck if I wanted to, I could be someone different each and every time and you would be ok with that just because I have a handle? And newsflash, if someone forgets to complete those field boxes, like I have… Read more »
That is just the point, as far as I can see, when a person forgets to fill in the box, they come back and say “oh, that was me.” There are very few here who change their handle all the time, but when anonymous comes up 5 times in a row, there is no way to discuss anything with them. Cracks me up when you say I am speaking directly to someone, being snobby or whatever, and then, in your attempt to scold me, do exactly what I did. Many sites don’t allow anon posters for a lot of reasons,… Read more »

He fits Bethanny’s image of what she wants in a man…rich, businessman, good looking etc….but seriously don’t you think this man must have some issues or be really gullible and deceived to hook up with Bethanny? He will seriously live to regret this decision. She isn’t capable of having a healthy loving relationship.

I totally disagree. She did not have a Mom to show her how to have a loving relationship. So, she has had to learn from failures and living and trying. She has friends from high school, which says a lot about a person. We are all complicated humans. Some have had a lot more to handle than others, she is one of them. She had no say whatsoever in what happened to her until she was 19. Then she decided to make her own life, her own rules, and make her own fortune. She is heads and shoulders above the… Read more »

You are the saddest person. I am so sorry for whatever you went through or are going through that turned you into this miserable state that you are constantly in. You deserve love and a good way to get it is to give it.

3D is not a sad person!

It makes me seem sad to defend someone who was sad as a child? How odd. I believe you consider that an insult, but that’s OK honey, we all do and say what we must to get through the day. Many things have made me sad during my 62 years. My brother going to Viet Nam. Going to Catholic school and being treated like a bastard child because my Dad married my Mom who was divorced. Losing my baby son at 5 months pregnant. A very loved friend having cancer. My youngest daughter dying when she was 27, she went… Read more »

I see you chose not to respond, typical being that there is no intelligent one.

Urine colored diamond- HAHAHA 3D’s ÿou get the LOL AWARD today.

Thanks, Bee. I would choose ANY color diamond but that, seriously. My engagement ring is a ruby with small diamonds, and the wedding ring is a diamond with small rubies. I just celebrated my 31st anniversary to my wonderful husband, who knows I am an old hippy, who raised our kids with me with everything we had, and loves me for who I am. That is what everyone deserves, for those who love them to love them for who they really are. Whether it be a Husband, Son, Daughter, Sister, Brother-in-Law, Son-in-Law, Daughter-in-Law, Friend or Partner.

Shirley, this is reality TV.lumann has always been narcotic, self absorbed cow. Lu’s ex and herself were two stingers. I don’t doubt her new man is the same.I only can say except it or move on, lumann, always thought of herself as royalty (not). She was upset because Carole is a princess. You don’t see her using her title for some type of advancement.

Totally agree about Bethenny.. misery loves company, and she is a witch who would love to destroy someone else’s happiness.. At the same time, Luann needs to get over herself.. she was so insensitive to Sonja, wasn’t honest to Sonja from the get go about Tom, and all of this while staying at Sonja’s house… Luann, take the blinders off about this guy and stop making everything about you!

Ms.Shirley. well stated.

Shirley you are correct. She has turned into an evil sole. I saw a pic today on another website she posted of herself on a beach. She is sickly skinny. And the thing that disturbed me the most is how she ridiculed Jules for her eating disorder. Bethany looks absolutely disgusting. It is even more disturbing how she thinks good enough to put the pic on social media. She has turned into a heartless bitch and thinks the world should stop because of a health issue that could be solved and not life threatening. The heartless woman should be ashamed… Read more »
When did she “ridicule” Jules. She started crying for her when Jules told her, and said she thought Jules was brave to tell her. She was nothing but kind to her. The only time Bethenny ever yelled at Jules was after Jules assumed Bethenny had spoken about the many secrets Jules had shared with her about her marriage, which never happened. The other thing was when Jules, who is a 35 year old adult baked silverware and a measuring cup into something she let Bethenny EAT. When you BAKE stainless steel in an effing pizza oven, which is 500 degrees,… Read more »
AND, YOU are ridiculing Bethenny for the same thing you accused her of doing. She was quite ill, and lost a lot of blood and had surgery. I have had almost that exact surgery, and some of us get quite thin when we are ill, and after surgery. No one with an eating disorder could ever have the stamina she does. They could NEVER run a huge company, keep their partners happy and be healthy enough to travel all over, be a Mom, and just do everything she does without losing concentration. Jules exhibits the symptoms of a person with… Read more »

Would you also say that about someone who is plump, or missing a hand, for example, has no right to post a picture of themselves? How phucking shallow.

Today is Aug 9.We will not be able to find out what happens because Slice has replaced HWNY with hockey wives

Shame on you Bravo & Slice

Is that right, oh no!! I very much dislike bait and switch too, Debbie.

When has B’s ever had “right” motives about anything? She got married because she got pregnant. That alone rests my case.

What does It matter who had the info? Wouldn’t everyone want to know if the Ass your engaged to is cheating on you? Does it really matter if it was in front of camera’s? It would come out anyway! Go snort a line LuMannnn

I am so over LuMann thinking he only has eyes for her… I call BS. Once a player always a player. And if anything she is the one acting like a grown moron…having to keep saying she’s so happy, that they are sole-mates (gag) it’s like she’s trying to convince herself..
Keep tuned to watch her crash and burn

So now Tom’s a player? I didn’t know he was married. The guy was single. Besides, if you’re buying Bethenny’s story along with Frick & Frack, I’d get my money back. If Bethenny has any kind of proof, she’d show it. It’s pure fabrication on Bethenny’s part. Why? Because she enjoys humiliating people and because she thinks causing drama will distract the viewers from hating her. And most viewers have had enough of Bethenny Frankel & her constant SG Infomercials & judgmental venom. Let her go on QVC where she can go off on calling customers. That’ll be the final… Read more »
Yep, you there with no name, that’s why she was named the favorite housewife right on this blog and has hundreds of thousands of fans. She employs hundreds of people, is good to them, and has made it HERSELF. I believe people, especially those too afraid to choose a handle, are envious. There is no reason for her to manufacture this, she always has something going on in her segment, has no dog in this fight as she doesn’t ever choose her dates from the cesspool they call nightclub dating in Manhattan. She has also never said she was one… Read more »


Here LuAnn goes, once again burying the lead. Tom and every-woman-in-town is the story.

This isn’t Luann’s story. It’s Bethenny’s fabricated story, along with Sonja & Ramona who think that if they go along with the ruse, they’ll have jobs next season.

How did Bethenny fabricate pictures of Tom’s tongue down the throat of a Playboy model?

I’d like to know that too, DebBrenn. 🙂

Sorry to say Bethenny’s motives are irrelevant Luann. Your fiance’s motives are. And his behavior is all that matters. You arent marrying Bethenny.

Well said!

Bethenny doesn’t have a dog in this fight, so to speak. She is keeping the company of her own man, and has never known Tom. She has been right about Luann from day one. She is simply the only one with the guts to say it to Luann’s face. EVERYONE knows about Tom. Whether or not Bethenny and the man she is currently seeing choose to put their relationship on camera is up the them. As I have said before, I am positive it isn’t in the contract that the boyfriend or girlfriend, or friend in any capacity, is required… Read more »

And BTW, Tom is a pig. And if Luann marries him, well, she will have made her bed and will certainly be laying in it a LOT.

Sorry to inform you but Tom & Lu are happily traveling in Europe, having a great time. They’re very much & love. Bethenny, however, needs needs to take a good, hard look at her shocking bag of bones body. When Bethenny took off her robe & showed us her skeletal body, it was shocking. She’s in complete denial about her drastic eating disorder. Again, she pointed fingers Jule’s who isn’t in denial but very open about her problem. Beth’s bones sum up her whole fraudulent life–a life of lies, deflections and venomous judgments. In plain language: she’s a mess.

She has no eating disorder, she has been ill, and she is one of those people who lose weight when they are ill. And Luann will be happy no matter what as long as she has that urine colored 10 carats on her left hand, no matter who he bangs, it gives her the freedom to bang all the 20 year old houseboys everywhere she travels. If Bethenny had an eating disorder, you wouldn’t be the one saying it. It would be all over the news, her business partners would be up in arms and everything would be falling apart… Read more »

Agree Aleggra

Absolutely right!

This is in reply to D’s

Hi,Nancy. Where have you been? Everyone has more to do in the Summer I guess. Hope all is well.

Bethenny has a dog in every fight. She instigates and fabricates to deflect from her own married man, long-time affair. If Bethenny had proof of Tom’s supposed infidelity, she’d sell it to the highest bidder. Bethenny needs to ask Jill Shields if she’d “want to know the truth.” Obviously, Bethenny never asked because Jill was clueless that her husband was sleeping with her long-time friend when they took Bethenny out to dinner. Jill S. has been clueless that her husband of 26 years has been having an affair with Bethenny for over a year. But Bethenny loves pointing fingers away… Read more »

I couldn’t have said it better!!! Bethany is a pile…

Bethenny and Shields wife are not “long time friends” they are people who have been acquainted for a long time, big difference. He was separated, as was she, when they started seeing each other. Just because there is a minuscule possibility they all had dinner at one time doesn’t pre-empt her from having a moral right to date him. People often find their partners among people they already know. Everything you just said is regurgitated rumor from the never ending “insiders” & “sources close to the family” etc. None of it is fact.

Great one 3 D’s.

I ❤️☆‼️

She has a dog in every fight . Are you obsessed with her

Oh, hahahahahaha. I just saw this. Yes. I have written on maybe 5 pages of the hundred here about a woman who I happen to be a fan of. I have a wonderful cottage with my husband of 31 years, children and In-Laws, friends and a life and a garden, and pets. But I walked from Nevada, where I live, to New York just to get a glimpse of her, that’s how obsessed I am. Hilarious.

I so agree with you D’s forever!!


Lu Ann is like a cat in heat. Her desperation is getting uncomfortable to watch

LuAnn does seem desperate to wed, but she’s grown woman and if she wants to ignore she’s marrying a hound dog, then so be it. Anyone who believes Ramona is keeping her private life private is drinking the Ramona koolaid. Trust that if or when she gets a boyfriend she will flaunt him all over the place. I don’t think she can get a man to last with her. She is in far more in heat than LuAnn and Sonja combined. She can’t even go to a party without demanding the single men guest list.its embarrassing. Let LuAnn find out… Read more »
Luann always trying to control the narrative.At the party she was all over the place trying to ensure what was being said. Her blog is BS! Again trying to control the narrative. Bethenny cud come up with enough proof to convince a jury, Luann will marry the guy if he’ll have her. She is hell bent on getting married. I say hell with it let her gloat in her own misery! Lu only cares abt $$. She met her old goat of a husband, drops her BF which she lived with& married the old goat a wk or so after… Read more »
Thank you, Nancy. I hadn’t thought of that, keeping it to herself being the mean thing. That is SO TRUE. Bethenny has no dog in this fight. Bethenny doesn’t choose her men from the regular festering pool of bar goers in Manhattan, where both parties are looking for someone rich and connected. She doesn’t need anyone rich or connected, although they should be so as not to feel overshadowed by Bethenny. He would have to be a powerful man on his own to be able to not only keep up with Bethenny, but to have the guts and heart to… Read more »

100% agree with you

Thank you, Ruth. Haven’t seen you here before, so HI!! 3 D’s here, and hope to see you more, not just because you agree with this post either. 🙂

Thanks. I have read here before but never posted. I was on RT. Just to nasty for me now.

I really hope you have time to post now, we always welcome new people, and we have fun here. It gets a little bitchy occasionally, but short lived. I always enjoy a discussion, whether I agree or not with a smart person, so I can learn why others feel and think what they do. If I only wanted to hear myself, I would read my own journal over and over. Anyway, 🙂

Hi Ruth, Welcome, this site is so much nicer than RT. I read the stories on there but not the comments. There are one or two here but 99% are really lovely. We have fun and go off a times but that’s how we get to know each other. Xo

Thanks Suze, I see more interesting comments here. I like Bethenny and it’s always nice to see comments that are not always hate based.

Poor Bethenny. She is in the proverbial, ” Damn if you do, Damn if u don’t situation. ”
She wasn’t looking for this , it literally feel into her lap.
Luann is in LA LA land. Granted, I wold want someone to tell me in private.

I had to read this twice lol…. Poor Bethany?? Really

Me too, but nothing about Luann’s magic soul mate is private, as she wanted it to be. Otherwise she wouldn’t be able to shove that urine colored 10 carats under everyone’s nose, especially Sonja. I believe if it had been a private affair, Bethenny would have kept it that way. Actually, I have never heard her spread gossip. She is just a great scapegoat because she is a self made millionaire and a little harsh. She has had a harsh life, but she works on herself, which is way, way more than I see in the others.

Ah, excuse, excuse, 8 carats. My mistake.

Thank gawd I’m not the only one to notice how cloudy that ring is, lol.

I agree. While Beth has been annoying me to no end this season, I do not believe for a moment that she is delighting in this situation regarding Luann. Not at all. If I had a a friend (well as a much as one could consider their love-hate frienemy dynamic a “friendship”), and they saw my fiancé tickling some stranger’s tonsils with his tongue in a bar- I sure as heck would want to know. PRIVATELY….listen, even if I’m wearing rose-colored glasses through all of this, don’t let me walk into a new marriage BLIND. If you SEE something, SAY… Read more »

No response? Naturally. Whenever someone wants to hit and run, they do. Methinks it is the same as posting as anon. No big, just an observation.

LuAnn, you are in serious denial. They are your friends, not your enemies. They trying to warn you that you man isn’t all he wants you to think he is. Love is blinding you. And he’s been with two of your friends for crying out loud! That alone would make him totally undesirable. Do you need a man THAT BAD? Well, maybe it’s payback for cheating on Jacques. He was adorable and you blew that relationship with Johnny Depp. You know what they say … Karma’s a bitch.