Caroline Manzo’s Husband Albert Owes More Money


According to a new report, Albert Manzo, husband of Caroline, owes Frank and Son Dynamic Elevator Services Inc. $6,132, because a case against the Brownstone House defaulted on July 25, 2016.

A clerk from the Superior Count Special Civil Part in Passaic County, New Jersey confirmed that the elevator company was granted the automatic default after the Brownstone failed to file an answer to the complaint filed on June 9, 2016, according to RadarOnline.

As we previously reported, Albert and Caroline already owe $208,012.77 in state taxes for the family business and they also must pay $13,075 to an accounting firm that worked with the Brownstone.

But everything seems well at home, as Caroline is excited about redoing her house just before the season premiere of Manzo’d With Children.

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98 Replies to “Caroline Manzo’s Husband Albert Owes More Money”

  1. Once it’s made knowledge about one debt, the others pop up at regular intervals. Don’t watch her programme and not likely to, can’t stand her or her babies!

      1. I don’t know what it is about RHONJ, but seems like an awful lot of them are suffering from tax debts! Maybe they should consider moving elsewhere. These people have all lived in NJ for all their lives or most of it. One would think they are aware of the taxes and tax laws!

        1. It’s funny how my husband and I have lived in New Jersey forever, and we pay our over the top high taxes, but others who appear to be in the top 1% of wealth in the state just find ways not to pay them…for years! Granted it is the highest tax bracket, but if you cannot afford it, then cut back, downsize, and budget.

          1. My brother lives in one of the most affluent cities in Connecticut, owns his own business and I can honestly say, he has NEVER been in any kind of trouble concerning taxes. I think these people must just look the other way at tax time as they never seem to be at a loss for money. Look at TeresaG… would never know she had just come out of prison, (not CAMP) Teresa. She’s still living in that g-d awful gawdy mansion, their lifestyle hasn’t suffered it seems as those girls seem to get whatever they want still. I know Joe didn’t make that much money while she was away. It is amazing what they get away with. Meanwhile, I can’t even get a new apartment because my income isn’t 3X’s my SS. How’s that for wonky????? And, I don’t live in NJ! Something is waaaay outta wack here.

            1. Yes, CT is also a state with a high tax burden.
              It sickens me to see these people get away with living like they do and all those who do not pay their fair share.
              I am sorry to hear about the problems you have getting an apartment. I wish you luck.

    1. Could not agree more Suze. I’ve never watched the show & never will but seeing the previews, Carowhine looks hideous!! She owes hundreds of thousands of dollars due to tax fraud, but she is remodeling her house?? Where are all the ouraged Trehaters now that we see the Manzoids are guilty of fraud as well?…..oh the outrage only extends to the Guidices. Hmmmmm, kind of hypocritical to me.

      1. Totally agree Krista, it has always annoyed me that the G’s get all the hate, I can understand why people dislike them but the rest of them are as bad! Xoxoxoxoxox

  2. I would redo my entire house if I did not have to pay taxes. Unreal.
    I need to move out of NJ. The taxes here are insane…wonder why? Oh, all these multimillionaires are not paying their fair share…that may be a bit of it, maybe?

  3. I’m eye rolling here over how they owe all this money to people and she’s happily redoing her house. Not so bright.

  4. I don’t think that anyone has to worry about Caroline & Al. Unlike some of their former friends, these two seem to be fine people with principles and integrity. I am sure that these people will get their money!

  5. The Brownstone would not be successful, if Al was as crooked as this story is portraying him to be.
    Agree, Caroline, not the smartest move, but in her defense, the Brownstone owes money, not the Manzo’s.

      1. The brownstone is probably in an S-Corp or LLC so it is the business that owes the money, whether or not they are on the BOD.

    1. The Brownstone was started by Al’s dad, “Tiny” Manzo and left to his sons, Albert and Tommy. Maybe you can look up “Tiny” to find out more history.

    2. Uh….you do realize that the Manzoids are the Brownstone? Was it also the “Brownstone” that lied to the NJ taxpayers so Al could get some fancy title and get on the dole? I seem to remember this “appointment” came with health insurance. All this was during the time the Manzoids were getting their weight loss surgeries one after the other first Al, then Caro then Lauren and maybe Kristofart? Seems like there was some shady, entitled sh*t going down!

  6. Why does everyone dislike this family so much? We don’t get this show here so I am curious as to why they are so disliked by SO many.

    1. Very smug hypocritical people. The adult children act like children, seem entitled & lazy, all living off the parents. They were always mocking others behind their backs as if they were prizes. Carowhine is a dishonest back-stabber and they defrauded NJ taxpayers to get Fat Al appointed to some commission with taxpayer provided benefits. Luckily, Gov. Christie fired his fat ass. Carowhine lives to kick people when they are down, even went after Teresa’s 11 or 12 year old daughter, Gia with help from a very high Jacolush, (thanks Suze!). They are just vile people who don’t pay their bills and think they are better than everyone when the kids are all losers who would have nothing if Daddy didn’t shell out the bucks for every fart of an idea. Carowhine in general seems to be a mean, spiteful, jealous woman. Supposedly, Fat Al has had a mistress for years. That’s my insight into the mess that is the Manzoids.

      1. Wow, you are really acerbic about the Manzos. I maybe didn’t see the show from its’ inception, but I sure didn’t see the side of them that you have. Granted, her children are the most ungrateful I’ve seen and they do seem to stick pretty close to home & dabble in occupations rather than pursue them, but as for the other criticisms you put in your post, I guess we must be watching different shows. I’m pretty much a pessamistic person and very critical of most everyone & everything, but I think you have me beat!!!! I have not seen enough of Al to make the judgements you have and I certanly wouldn’t call him a “fat ass”. While we are on the subject of Al, taxes and the Brownstone, let’s not forget that Al’s brother Tommy, (Dina’s EX) is also a partner there, so Al isn’t the only one at fault here!

      2. You are welcome to Jacolush I’m sure I purloined it from someone else! Al has had a ‘mistress’ called Jill for many years. To me that doesn’t say much about either of them Al for doing it and Caro for putting up with it! I might forgive a one off, not easily, but not an affair of many many years. I don’t know who you are as you haven’t chosen a name but I agree with you!

        1. OMG you go girl……… are hilarious. Is “jacolush” supposed to be Jacqueline Laurita? Forgive my lack of knowledge here. I just joined this site a few days ago! Keep up the good work, you are really informative. I didn’t know that Al had an affair for many years. Can’t believe that Caroline would put up with it either, unless she talks out of both sides of her mouth and counsels others about stuff like this, but puts up with it in her own house! Are these women so insecure that they are afraid to speak up and not be f**king doormats? I mean where is the respect for oneself??!!! Geesh…..c’mon ladies, grow some cajones and put your feet down on this kind of behaviour!!!!

          1. Hi Karen, yes Jacolush is Jac Laurita, given the name among many because of her drinking! After a reunion the last Caro did she was told, allegedly, that her story had to come out which is why she left, again allegedly! Some of it came out at a Posche fashion show, they was always conflict there! Tre got the blame for Jac not being at the reunion but she wasn’t there because she had hit Johnny the Greek on the head with a stiletto shoe. A law suit followed but was dropped when settled out of court (I’m almost sure about that part, the lawsuit being dropped!) Andy asked Caro at the reunion, about Al being faithful but she just said she would be naive to imagine he had always been faithful! I use to watch each episode two or three times I was so keen on it but once is enough for me these days. I still like Tre, not that popular here but I do, she did wrong but has paid and now Joe is paying. Financially she will be paying for ever! Xoxoxox

            1. Thank you for all the info Suze. U R a treasure, for sure. I just picked up watching, assuming incorrectly that I was watching the show for the first time! Tre is okay. I have given her a bad rap b/c of the way she went ahead and did what Joe told her to and look what happened. I know she is “old school” Italian, but had someone done that to me and taken me away from my children, I would have been a raving lunatic. I am proud of her for serving her time gracefully, paying her debt to society by doing jail time and by paying restitution. I just worry for her and the girls for when Joe is released from doing his time as he does face the reality of deportation. I guess people don’t want to see people living a modest lifestyle. For me, it would be a lot more interesting than watching these people trying to keep up with everyone else. Look at Chris and Jac Laurita. They are trying to sell their mansion and downsize and if that happens, I guess Bravo won’t want them on RHONJ. The only families that haven’t done anything wrong or committed any crimes are the Gorgas and the Wakiles. Joe & Melissa have ventured into many things and they seem to be the “go getters”. I don’t know what Rich does for a living, but Kathy could certainly make a fortune selling her delicious food items. Boy oh boy, can she ever cook, bake and yum…they seem like nice families, at least for now!

              1. Oh boy! I won’t get into it here but Rich Wakile is not innocent just google his name and Exxon if you are interested enough and that will bring up other lawsuits against him!
                They all try to pretend they have so much more than they have and that’s the big problem. I think Evan in his comment hit the nail on the head! Xoxoxo

      3. I read some time ago that BRAVO pushes its players to boost their living style & it has resulted in serious money problems for several of them on all the RH shows. I recall a former cast member from RHOC speaking candidly about this. “Viewers don’t want to watch people living a modest lifestyle”, a cast member has said she was told by Bravo execs. And it isn’t till a show has been ratings success for 2-3 seasons that the salary goes way up. On the other hand, a few cast members such as Bethenny Frankel have parlayed & managed their success and money very well.

        1. This is truly sad to hear. Are these people so hell bent on being on TV that they cannot say “no” to Bravo? I certainly would not go into debt in order to be on a stupid TV show. Bethenny has worked very hard to get where she is today and I think she is to be commended for that. I know she isn’t real popular here, but after what she has been through with her ex Jason Hoppe and the monies she had to pay to divorce him, I think credit should be given where credit is due! I am probably in the minority here, but she was never “handed” anything that I ever saw and if she parlayed her earnings into Skinny Girl, then more power to her. She didn’t marry money, or get it in a divorce settlement which is more than some of these women (not just RHONJ) can say!

          1. There are very few housewives are truly wealthy, Bethenny is one and some on BH. Lisa, my favourite and Ken, even more my favourite! Built up their wealth together. Kyle and Mauricio, theirs has come after their marriage, since he set up the Agency, the rest married to or from money! Someone will tell me someone I have missed but I can’t think of one at the moment.

            1. It is hard to tell if you have missed anyone. Since the season hasn’t started for RHOBH, we don’t know who is returning and who is not. You are right on the money with assessment of the others. At least they are honest and don’t feel the need to file fraudulent paperwork, not pay taxes, etc. I know there are not many housewives with their own wealth unless they inherited it or married & divorced it or were widowed. I was widowed at 36 w/2 kids to raise and just to get what THEY were entitled to, was the worst experience of my life. I didn’t want anything for me, but I had 2 kids to educate, clothe, feed and provide a roof over their heads. I worked my whole life from 15 on. I am now about to be 70, so don’t expect any faction to pay for me. I get what I worked for. I surely do not begrudge anyone their due as long as they earned it honestly! The rest of them get what they deserve and I won’t shed tears for them!

              1. Not so much as a sermon, it sounds as though you have coped brilliantly! It must have been hard to be widowed so young. You have been through so muchxoxoxxo

                1. Oh Suze, I know you might find this hard to believe, but before my husband’s death, I was a very timid, shy and non-confrontational person. I let him fight all my battles for me. When he was gone and it was me with small children, I found my voice – good, bad or indifferent! He may or may not know it, but he created a monster! Now, I am very verbal concerning certain things I find to be just plain wrong. Oh, I am still a lady and do know when to keep my mouth zipped in my day-to-day life. I know……hard to believe, but true. So, if I come off a little hardcore, it is only my humble opinion I am expressing. I’m not a coldhearted b*tch, just had to fight to get myself heard in a “man’s” world or so it seemed at the time! Hugs sweetie…….xoxo

              2. Karen, it was a fine sermon. You have been through an awful lot in your lifetime, and yet, you are a survivor. I know it is not easy for you, but please know how many here are living with some of the same as you have endured. Some here have chronic illness, were left on their own quite young with young children for other reasons, have experienced great loss, and still come here for daily comments and even some therapy. 😉
                It is so nice to meet you Karen. I look forward to seeing your comments daily.
                Many of us are not young here. We have grown children, like myself, and we may deal with health issues or even be housebound for the most part…some,not all of course. I am at home. I do not work now, but I am a R.N. My husband is dealing with cancer now, but just caught it right before stage 1 became stage 2, barely. He will have radiation starting next week and will need to be hospitalized for implantation, etc. It is always something, but we will get through this.
                My youngest son is now unemployed and struggling to find a job, and he still has his own place. He is still young and single, and he may move back home in a few months. We are helping him out, since the job market is not good for him, here.
                I hope you know how many here are your friends. You will see soon enough if you have not already.
                Have a great day.

                1. Oh Sandy, I know exactly what you are going through. My husband dealt with chemo & radiation last year for colon, bladder and prostate cancer. The chemo & radiation did not work and he now has 2 colostomy bags. Not a fun way to live. Having been widowed at 36, with 8 & 9 yr oldsI then had to raise on my own. My husband thought he would live forever, so didn’t believe in getting life insurance for anything. I was left w/debt out the ying yang and my 2 babies. I know we all have health issues or spouses with health issues. I am diabetic, insulin dependent. I lost my son last year and he was one year younger than his father when he passed. He was my stabilizer and got me through some of my current husband’s issues. I also had open heart surgery in 2014 and was told that 95% of the people with the condition I had do not make it, so I consider myself EXTREMELY fortunate. Yes, the women on this site are absolutely amazing and I am proud to be considered a part of this wonderful group. I guess that is why I am so opinionated when it comes to all of these women on these reality shows and their wishy washy friendships and extravagant lifestyles. There is nothing so great as a wonderful relationship with other women. I admire each and every one of you………I know I am not the only one who has had a difficult life. That being said, I would not trade one minute of my life. It was a rude awakening, but a learning experience as well. Perhaps that is why I am so intolerant of these people who can’t seem to “get it right”. Life is a one time shot, you need to make the most of it while one is on this earth. There is no dress rehearsal and no “do overs”, so they need to be thankful for what they have and make the most of their lives, families and friends. My mother always said I was the consumate pessimist, but given my circumstances, I had to live in this “real” world and do the right thing by my kids as well as myself. Had I been a “gold digger” or thief, maybe it would have been easier, but I had to look at myself in the mirror on a daily basis and live with myself. That is something I don’t think these people ever give a second thought to. Hugs sweetie, you are a lovely lady!

                  1. Oh my, Deb, what a hard life. You definitely are one tough cookie or coconut to go through all of that. Thank goodness you did, because you are one amazing woman…and you add a lot to these discussions and comments, on a selfish note! I don’t know how you did all of it either, but I commend you on your fortitude, my friend.
                    Thanks for sharing so much. You are awesome. 😉

                  2. Holy moly, Karen, I got jumbled up with names, and I said Deb and coconut. I am losing it. Please forgive me. I knew it was you and then I wrote someone else in there. You are not Daisy, and I know that. I am so sorry, nit for my sentiment, but my mixup, and you are one tough cookie who I am lucky to have met here. Xxxooo

                    1. Thank you for understanding. Sometimes my memory fails me a bit. I used to have a pretty great memory in my youth. It is hard to believe now. ❤️

                    2. Oh sweetie, I have so many “brain farts” it isn’t even funny. I guess it comes with age, but I find myself forgetting things that really ARE important to me and remembering things that are totally inconsequential! I guess that is another one of the joys of getting older!

                    3. Thanks Karen. It is so frustrating when the memory comes out of nowhere and I run through a category on Jeopardy, and then the next one I go blank on simple names that I know, but the recall is just not there. When the wrong word comes out of my mouth and I meant another…and my brain thought I said the other word at the time, it is really annoying thinking one thing…but saying something else.
                      Thanks for understanding. 😉 xo

                    4. May I just say sweetie, I think we are all aging gracefully & to the best of our abilities. It is so difficult when you know the response to something and it is on the tip of your tongue, but it just won’t come out of the mouth. Hopefully, this is just part of aging gracefully and not some form of dementia. At least, I hope that is what it is. You are just fine!!!!!:-))

                    5. Sandy, I can’t even remember if I ever had a good memory! It’s that bad! Lolxoxoxox

                    6. Suze, you are too kind. I know you had a great memory. You are a perfectionist, and you still have a memory! I am far worse than ever before, and it is a bit scary at times, really. I am hoping I don’t have Alzheimer’s…but I do not rule it out, since some things are too odd that I have done lately, like putting things in the wrong places…really wrong places.
                      I actually used to have the nickname “Walking PDR” when I was a young nurse. The PDR is the Physicians’ Desk Reference, which is the book of all the medications, their generic names, etc. I had a great memory for remembering all the generic names of medications…long names, and I could spell them, and I knew a lot about how they worked, side effects…just remembered.
                      I was the runner up (no not the winner) in a schoolwide spelling bee in the 5th grade, and did have somewhat of a gift for spelling…but I never studied Greek or Latin roots of words…like the kids today! I am just saying, that I did do well with memorization of things in a pretty big way, and now, I am lucky to remember if I took a medication right after I took it…and I write down everything..reminders. I should have stock in Post-It notes, really.
                      I know age has something to do with it, but my sister who is a lot older does not do what I do…and still had a great memory.
                      Okay, I wrote too much. It really upsets me lately more and more, but I won’t elaborate further!
                      You are still too nice, Suze. You are one in a million! Love ya. Xoxoxo

                    7. Oh Sandy, I’m sure you are ok! Your comments here are always on the ball! I have to have a seven day pill popping machine which I fill once a week as I could never remember if I had taken them or not! What a pair we are! Maybe you should do Sudoku they say that is good for your memory. I have an app on my iPad so I can stick with easy unless I’m feeling alert! Xoxoxoxoxxo
                      The other point, how much advice have you given and medical info here that has helped people including me! Xoxoxox❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

                    8. Thanks, Suze! You’re the best!
                      By the way, I also have a 7 day pill container for a pill I have to take each morning on an empty stomach. I keep it on my bathroom sink right out in the open and take it when I rise. I usually remember to take it, though I have forgotten at times. I even keep a water cooler upstairs.
                      You are so kind, Suze. XOXOXO ❤️❤️❤️

                    9. Your regimen sounds perfectly OK to me. I use a pill box, but need them to come up with something to remind me to give myself my insulin shot. I am not afraid of needles, but it does get tiresome having to “stick” yourself 2 times a day. That coupled with taking my blood sugar and it all adds up to me being forgetful about having to give myself a shot and stick my fingers until they are black & blue. I got this aversion to needles when I was in the hospital for my heart surgery and they were coming in every 3 to 4 hours to take blood until I had no spots left. When that happened, they started going back to spots where they had just been! Not fun at all:-(((

                    10. Oh Suze, You and Karen just brought tears to my eyes. Now I am like a baby here. I mean that.
                      You mean so much to me. Thanks Suze.
                      Thanks, Karen too. You are great people, and I feel honored to have met you. Karen, keep writing. You belong here. 😉
                      Suze you are a friend across the pond that I met some time ago, and you are awesome beyond words. I look forward to seeing your words every day, and I do care about you so much. I may be getting a bit mushy here, but you lighten and brighten the days of more than just me here, Suze. You are a shining star. I wish for the best for you always, my thoughtful, considerate, brilliant, funny, sweet and loving friend. (Yes, mushy…sorry.)

                    11. Oh sweetie, you are way too kind. Given my life today, I am always at home and an insomniac to boot, so being here absolutely brightens my days and nights. All you women here are just the nicest, loveliest people to know. I love the lively disucssions and am happy to see that I am not just a funny old lady with funny & outdated opinions. I think my parents raised me as a lady, but to think for myself and not be afraid to express myself. I just hope I don’t offend anyone in any way. That would just about kill me! Hugs to everyone. Thank you for accepting me with such kindness. It is so refreshing to meet women of your calibur and I am enjoying each and every moment.

                    12. I meant that I met you Suze, some time ago…right here, but I do wish it was in person. 😉

                    13. Sandy, I really hate to hear that .Please please look into the memory stuff . I feel funny telling you this because of your wonderful medical background but, my hubby has a thyroid problem (hashimoto) not sure about the spelling . It played havoc on his memory . He is on meds for it now . His levels are normal now but he still does have memory issues because of it.

                    14. Karen, my once a day pill on my empty stomach is levothyroxine. I take a very low dose. I just had my levels done, and I am quite normal, so I am good that way. I did have thyroid problems in my youth, with goiters, and at one time they thought I had Grave’s Disease and I was treated for an overactive thyroid with those goiters. I was told I would eventually have an underactive thyroid, and although my levels were low normal, I still went on the thyroid meds, since I had all of the symptoms. Now my levels are quite normal on a very low dose. I had blood drawn last month. I do agree about the thyroid affecting memory too. It does wreak havoc. It even affects cholesterol levels. Thanks for your concern! 😉

                    15. I am so happy to hear that you are ok. Who knew that such a tiny gland could wreak such havoc on the body?? We are such complicated specimens. I am happy to hear everything is ok and your blood work is good! Hugs…..

                    16. Good thinking…….there could be many reasons for being forgetful. These wonderful bodies of ours can often play tricks on us, causing us to think the worst. I know I am good at doing that. So many little things could be just a little “off”, causing so many different things.

                    17. Not sure where to reply now to Suze and Karen, so I will do it here.
                      Suze, you are amazing, and I am grateful to know you. I know others here feel the same way. I cannot say enough about you. You are beyond words! 🙂 (Sorry, everyone else for being mushy today. It happens.)

                      Karen, you are so real and so refreshing, and your opinions and words are always great to read. We here are pretty good at agreeing to disagree, since we all have varying opinions and are not clones. We just still get along even so. You have every right to say what you feel and be yourself. Just continue doing so, please. 🙂

                    18. I’d like to think that “different strokes for different folks” makes the world go ’round. What a boring place the world would be if we all thought the same way! I totally enjoy the fact that we all can agree to disagree and I know that I am always enlightened when someone shows me a different opinion. It opens me up to the idea that maybe my opinions are too rigid or one-sided. I find it a great learning experience!

                    19. Suze, I am sorry to make you cry. So sorry. Keep smiling your beautiful smile, please. 🙂

                      Daisy, thanks for your prayers. All of you wonderful people are in my thoughts and prayers as well.

                    20. Karen, I have to give myself an Enoxaparin, blood thinning, shot every day so know how you feel, I dread it as well. It is only once a day unlike you but my poor stomach is black and blue with bruises from them. Xoxoxoxox

                    21. I can totally understand what you are going through. I am supposed to take my insulin in my stomach, but it leaves hard knots and bruises, so I use my arm. Not sure how effective that is, but it saves my sanity. You poor thing, I admire your gumption & tenacity for doing that. I had never been exposed to that many needles prior to going on insulin. Oh, I did take Enbrel shots for a while. I have something called “neurological ankylosing spondilitis” and my rheumatologist prescribed that for a while. That was back in the day when Enbrel was new and it was $1200 a month.

                    22. Sandy, shit shit shit now I am crying! You ladies here are getting me through the second to worse time in my life, the worst being when my son had cancer, now you ladies are my shining lights every day. When I feel really down I come here and am laughing with someone most days. What Would we do without each other. Sandy you my sweet sweet friend are a star! Xoxoxxo

                    23. Oh sweetie, isn’t this the way it should be???!!! We are all “sisters” and no one can ever understand us better than our “sisters”. I think it is wonderful that we can all come together here and share the good, the bad and the ugly. How blessed and lucky we are. Wipe your tears and smile sweetie…….we are all here for you! xoxo

                    24. Damn straight we do…………I just wish everyone else would acknowledge it. As my daughter says, “Live it, learn it and love it!!”. Rock on ladies, WOMEN RULE!!!

                    25. This has NOTHING to do at all about Real Housewives, but may I just say……I am certain the people who developed this website are genius. Perhaps they didn’t realize that this would become a creative and wonderful way for those of us here to express our innermost thoughts, declarations and opinions. Thru this site, we have developed wonderful friendships and a way to let out our joys, sorrows, frustrations and pain. Yes, we do disucuss the programs, but are able to let our true feelings out and show that we are all experiencing wonderful, painful and worrisome (sp?) thoughts out. This is the best catharsis in the world and with so many knowledgeable people, we learn so much! Thank you one and all for being there, but most of all for being there. You bring more to this party than you will ever know.

                    26. Karen, you said it. How sweet of you. It is a great place for many of us here.

                    27. Karen, you should email Nick* I can’t spell it right as it will go into moderation, she would love to hear this from you, I have told her the same myself a while ago. It means so much to so many of us, this site xoxoxoxox

                    28. Karen, next to Home at the top of the site is ‘about’ this gives you details on Nicky she owns the site and is a really lovely person. I have spelt her name with a Y but it is an I!

                  3. I am so sorry to hear about your husband too, Karen. He has been through an awful lot. It is so much to deal with at one time, and so difficult. I feel for you.
                    My husband already has UC (ulcerative colitis) and has had it the last several years, and with radiation, they want to be sure not to radiate his colon, since, thankfully, it was not affected but is already in not so great shape…and colostomies with UC are often needed at some point since it takes a toll, even with the strong medications, he has relapses.
                    Now with hormone suppression and all the side effects of that, they hope to just radiate the tumor and are placing tubes in for more localized very strong radiation….next week. It is difficult, and your husband has been through so much. You all have. I am so sorry for you and your family and all of your struggles. I wish you all the best, Karen. XOXO

                    1. Suze , Sandy , Karen , all of you are going through so much . All you ladies are my heroes . I’m so sorry and all of you are in my prayers

                    2. Daisy, I did it again. That time I said Karen, and you were the one who mentioned the thyroid and Hashimoto’s. I am awful. Sorry. I answered Karen and not you. I should look more closely. I am a mess. Sorry. I do take my thyroid meds. 😉

                    3. I can’t speak for the others, but I am sure I am not alone when I say, thank you! I can use all the prayers I can get. Hugs………..

                    4. Daisy just like the flower you brighten my day! Yes I am mushy today and I don’t care! Xoxoxoxxo

                    5. I think it is great that we can all share and totally be ourselves with one another. I know I don’t have anyone that I can go express myself to. I have a daughter, but she is a busy lady and a busy mom. Not only that, but we don’t live in the same state. I can totally be myself with her, but she has her own “stuff” to deal with. So, I don’t talk to her on a daily basis as her kids, job and significant other take up her time. I just don’t like to bother her with my stuff. Also, she is angry with my husband b/c he didn’t attend my son’s memorial service as he was dealing with issues related to his colon cancer and couldn’t go out or far away from the house or the toilet. That puts me in the middle of a really “sticky” situation as she says she will “never forgive him” as he had been in my son’s life for 23 years! OMG, I hate situations like this!!!!

                    6. Suze sweetie be as mushy as you want . I will mush up with you . Just remember my sweet Suze women kick ass mushy or not

                    7. I”ll get mushy with all of you. It is so refreshing that we are all affected as deeply as we are and haven’t even met in person. How wonderful is this??? I love the fact that everyone here is the “real deal” and don’t put on airs or pretend to be something that they are not! Love, love, love it!!!!!

                    8. I am so very happy that the powers that be are taking such great precautions with your husband. My poor husband was only being radiated for the colon tumor. The side effects of that were pretty horrendous….the burns on his tush. The bladder & prostate cancer popped up after the radiation & chemo. He underwent a 9-1/2 hr. operation to remove the tumor, bladder & prostate and was in the hospital for 3 months. Now, he is a shell of the man he used to be. He stays in the bedroom all the time, only coming out for food and then he spends a couple of hours on the computer. We don’t have the “disposable” income to go out and do things, travel, etc., but it just seems like his zest for living has just gone. I don’t consider us elderly (even tho’ age wise, I guess we are), but it seems like we are just existing. Not sure what I would change given our financial circumstances, but there should be more to life than what we are doing now. All that, coupled with the death of my son and my life is pretty non-existant! But, I am still here, so the good Lord must have a purpose for me. Just wish he would let me in on what it is………..haha.

                    9. Karen, I understand. This takes a toll on a person, and you and your husband have had far too much happen to you, and we cannot make sense of it or why, but have to deal with it. It is never easy. It is so tough. I wish there was a way to turn back time and change the future somehow, but we cannot.
                      You are a wonderful person, and a joy to know, and this is a place where you can just be who you are and be accepted, and if that brightens your day, it is great. You brighten mine and others’ days too!
                      I see a change in the spouse already too…nightmares, worried, and he does worry about the after affects. We all do. I can only pray and hope that all will be well for us. I had health issues that made me pretty much incapacitated…and I mean unable to leave the house…barely able to walk…unsteady, deaf in one ear suddenly…balance issues…and I don’t like even talking about it, but then stress again…and my husband was very stressed…and I got shingles…and now he has this after having UC, and all in the last several years. It sucks, really, but what can you do.
                      I try not to get stressed too much. I did lots of reading and stress can reduce immunity. It is best we do try to stay calm as much as we can, but life can deal us some things that affect us greatly, I know. We cannot be the same as we used to be, maybe, but we can reinvent ourselves.
                      Well, I wrote a book and I am not going to proofread now. I have things to do here. I just wanted you to know that you are not alone. It is a pleasure to have met you, Karen.

                    10. Oh sweetie, you are such a strong, wonderful woman! Stress is an absolutely insidious thing, but I don’t know how to avoid it and function in this world today. Sure, there are medications, but having taken those for short periods of time, I can honestly say that I think I would rather feel than be so “out of it” I didn’t know if it was day or night let alone what day of the week. Somehow, the good Lord gives us the intestinal fortitude to deal with these situations and faith gives us the strength to keep moving forward, one foot in front of the other. I hope your husband can put aside his fears and concentrate on getting well (I know, easier said than done). But I pray that with you by his side, he knows he will come out of this better than before. UC is a b*tch of an ailment to have. My mother suffered with it way back in the 60’s and it was so difficult to watch her deal with it. Just keep your chin up sweetie and my prayers are with you and your dear husband. Hugs dear friend and have an awesome day!

                    11. Daisy, I cannot find the reply to you. I will try not to be stressed. I actually do try, though sometimes, I am not as good at it. (My GERD is worse on those days too.) I appreciate your understanding, Daisy.
                      You are a sweetheart. XOXOXO

                    12. Sandy honey please don’t be sorry . We all make mistakes and with all the stress you must be under at this time I think you’re doing wonderful

                1. Hi Daisy! Unfortunately, or fortunately, I am opinionated when it comes to stupid, silly stuff. I just forget to be polite and get very wordy and lengthy. Just hope that isn’t a deterrent. I am really a nice person, honest. I just hate to see stupidity, dishonesty and liars. Hugs to you dear, new friend!!!!!

                  1. Karen, many here are opinionated about one housewive or another so never apologise for it! We all like different women and that’s how it should be, we are lucky here that the majority are really nice and we agree to disagree without any of the nastiness you find on quite a few of the other blogs. You are fitting in really well here and I love reading your comments! Especially about OC! Lol xoxoxox

                    1. Oh my kind of website Daisy. I find it most interesting the diversity of comments. I have only belonged to one other website that was like this one and one wasn’t ever chastised for having an opinion. I find it extremely refreshing!!

                  2. No worries Karen , most people are opinionated . We often disagree here but it’s mostly done respectfully . You sound like a lovely lady and from reading your post you have earned the right to be opinionated . Nice to meet you . Hope you have a great day

  7. Who cares they have millions… people are just reaching for a story. Of all the husbands Albert and Chris are the two with the most class. I applaud Albert for not wanting to be a part of the drama of the show.
    Let i go guys let it go.

    1. I know my response here won’t endear me to some, but I have always thought that Al & Chris were heads above the other RHONJ husbands. I think Al stays out of the show as much as he can……the housewives show and the Manzo’d with children as much as he can. I don’t think too much will come of this “tax” issue because I think it will be paid and squared away ASAP. If Caroline can remodel that huge house, then paying a bill of this amount will be peanuts for them. Personally, I don’t understand why Caroline and Al don’t downsize and get a smaller place so the kids can’t keep coming back indefinitely. Albie is nothing more than a leech, Chris is going to be a writer, but until he does something earthshattering, he isn’t making any money either. Lauren & Vito just moved out of the family home and bought a house of their own, so at least they are making an attempt at cutting the apron strings. I know once I moved away from home, I wasn’t allowed back unless “I had 2 black eyes” in the words of my father. When I did have to move back home to get away from an abusive husband, I had to pay room & board. There was never a “free ride” in our family home! That may sound cold and heartless, but I am sure my father meant for me to learn a lesson! My own children moved out and then moved back in, but they certainly weren’t the ages of the Manzo children. Maybe I just don’t understand the inner workings of an old Italian family. I’d like to think I am more progressive than that, but maybe I am just deluding myself.

      1. Why don’t they downsize? There is a simple answer to that; because they don’t have to do it.
        First of all, they live in Franklin Lakes, NJ. My own sister and nephew and his family have sprawling homes there, and they also have other homes elsewhere. My sister is a lot older than me and in great shape, and her husband is not in the best of shape, but they still live in that huge home and have done lots of remodeling, and they do have women who come in to clean..several, so it is not as much work. They hire people.
        Yes, it seems maybe that if taxes are not being paid on the business, that maybe she should not be remodeling, but they are trying to keep the two separate, and they do have a reality TV show. People want to see the big home with the nice pool and the great vacations too. While they are filming, the money is coming in, more than just for a role on a show with others. This is their show. I think they can afford it, though it irks me that Al did not pay his taxes, etc., and he was given a job on a commission in NJ and lied about living in Paterson at his business, using that as his address. The governor saw him on the TV show and knew he was living in another county in Franklin Lakes in a big home, and he was pulled from that position which had lots of perks. That, and the family history of organized crime…that is what gets to me, not the home Caroline shares with her family when they visit.
        I don’t see anything wrong with the kids visiting or staying for any time. After all, they probably have their own wing in that home. For sure, the parents are paying for the Hoboken apartments for their son or sons, whomever is living away from home and maybe helped with Lauren’s house in a big way.
        Young Al is supposedly in Hoboken now. I am not sure what happened to their businesses. They closed one restaurant/bar (it was part of a chain) and were to be building another, but then I never heard anything more. Albie is selling seeds for marijuana or something in Colorado, unless I read wrong, and young Chris wrote a children’s book. Young Chris makes the show for me…love his sense of humour, and I wish him well. I heard both boys were hard working, and they used to help with the catering from the Brownstone and more. I know because my sister has used the Brownstone to cater for many years.
        Okay, I am not a fan of all the Manzos. I am not. I just know that the uber wealthy don’t have to downsize if they do not want to, like the rest of us. When our income declines, we cannot stay in the big homes and want something easier to manage or on one level, etc. I won’t be lucky enough to be a snowbird like my sister and her husband, but some day I do hope to downsize, and hopefully in the next few years.
        Sorry I went overboard.

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