Bethenny Frankel Defends Calling LuAnn de Lesseps a Slut

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During last week’s episode of the Real Housewives of New York City, Bethenny Frankel had a huge fight with LuAnn de Lesseps. Frankel called out the Countess for her partying ways, sleeping with married men and even called her a slut.

The debate carried on via Twitter. One viewer called out Bethenny for “slut-shaming,” but Frankel defended herself, saying that LuAnn never owns up to her scandalous behavior. “It’s hypocrisy shaming. This has been 8 years, a pirate, an etiquette book, a pedophile comment, lying about biz etc.,” she tweeted back.

Bethenny also followed up the criticism with a tweet saying, “This whole “slut shaming” thing is hilarious. Is there something called “douchebag shaming?””

Whose side are you on?

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  • DebBrenn

    I thought it was about time someone polked a hole in LuAnn’s hot air balloon.

  • Bon Vivant

    These two have had an Oil & Water thing going on for YEARS, lol. It’ll probably never be resolved or at least not with them ever ending up as best friends.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQFDYy1BLT0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eHKIQ0GVG0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzrauHfofms

    That last conversation between the two: if looks could kiiiiilllll…the tension! On national daytime TV no less. I think it’s safe to assume that they’re co-workers who get along for the sake of work.

  • apple

    Luann has never hidden that she likes men….and she has been very open about her life and relationships since the beginning. The things we know she has done are not that bad…so maybe she sleeps around …and gets a little hoity toity sometimes…BFD.
    This take down is not about Luann’s character…this is about her fight with Carole over the chef.
    Bethenny and Carole (neither of whom are faultless) are on a mission to destroy her.

    • Bon Vivant

      I think Bethenny’s a little more self-defined than to make an entire blow-up solely about Carole’s boyfriend. She’s an Alpha woman who follows no one. The evidence is clear that there is a rocky history between Bethenny and LuAnn based on Bethenny believing she is hypocritical and puts on airs. This non-meeting of the minds goes all the way back to Season Two, with the first time Bethenny reading Lu for filth at the Badgley Mischka show – this isn’t a new thing, it’s been ongoing.

      • apple

        Yes. Bethenny thinks the Countess is a phony. She has made that abundantly clear..over and over…for years now. But why keep browbeating the issue. What has changed? What has Luann done lately that has Bethenny so riled up?
        I also don’t agree with her…and I think the last clip you posted …where Bethenny, on her show, says something about Luann’s etiquette schtick and how she wasn’t honest about her sex life and marriage…and Luann answers that she doesn’t think good manners ever go out of style and she has also has children. Bethenny says she gets it…but she really doesn’t. Luann’s reluctance to talk about her husband’s and her own sex life during the first few seasons was correct. She has children to try to protect and it really isn’t anyone else’s business who she sleeps with. Fast forward 5 years and we know have Bethenny out …while still married…with a pretty active social/sex life and yet…somehow…we are not showing that….or her divorce…or her role as a mother…why? Because she wants to keep that private, of course.

        • The difference is that Luann wants to talk about EVERYONE ELSE’S sex life. Sonja’s, Carole’s, Ramona’s. That’s why. And she does do that on camera. So, you want privacy, good for you, then have some etiquette and keep your mouth shut about everyone else’s PRIVATE sex life too. How ’bout that? I liked it when Luann stuck up for Bethenny against the preacher know it all, Heather, who I never COULD STAND, at the beginning of last season, which I am watching again, but this year when she would not say she was sorry to Carole, would not even allow Carole to go over the actual texts, knowing she was wrong, that is the kind of thing that bugs Bethenny, and me. At least Bethenny knows she is abrasive, and admits it and says she is sorry, and I personally believe she is genuinely sorry, sincerely sorry. Does she continue to make mistakes, yes, as we all do. Bethenny is certainly unique, as is Dorinda, which I like about them. Ramona is the same crass, low rent, ignorant little snot she has always been. As I said before, Bethenny BLEW. When she said the word “mentoring” as it applied to Sonja’s drinking and bringing strange men home, that was hilarious. If she would have simply said, “I want to be there as an old friend of Sonja’s, someone to talk to” etc., I think Bethenny would have been fine. Even Ramona said in talking head that having Luann there only exacerbates the drinking black outs, which leads to Sonja bringing strangers with her, into her HOME, AND HER BED!. Luann has been going around for 8 years now giving her countess advice on how to have etiquette “dahling.” All the while she picks up men of all ages and all types, married or not, and pretends it is all done discretely. Well, if all of New York City knows, including, I am pretty sure, some of the WIVES of the men, then it’s damn lucky for her she is getting married.

          • apple

            They all talk about everyone else’s sex life and behavior…and Bethenny is the worst. That display on BH with Erika at her dinner party was a prime example…calling Erika “Bambi” and “a hooker slut who sleeps with old men”. Bethenny constantly judges people…and especially about their personal lives…and on camera. Most of what we think we know about Luann (and everyone else) came from Bethenny.
            This is not a “one-off” where she “blew”…this is who she is….and if anyone is a phony, it’s her. Bethenny uses people…Jill, Alex, Julie, Jason…she pretends to care about people as long as she needs them…but when they no longer serve her purpose…she obliterates them. That’s why she has no family. She makes the rules…but they don’t apply to her….and she is never sorry…because she is always right.

            • apple

              And I don’t “know” what Luann does or with whom…or Sonja, for that matter…or John….and neither can you. I believe only some of what I see on Bravo…and none of what I hear. Bethenny also said (on camera) John and Dorinda snort coke. When does it stop being funny and start being the malicious and unjustified destruction of a person’s reputation ? Well, I think we are already there.

            • smh

              Bethenny is disgusting.. always miserable, every episode.. Her going off the way she did was so uncalled for. It never ends.. You are making your brand look so bad. She is not attractive inside or out. She is the worst hw ever,,

              • duffs

                That was my take away. I kind of see Luann as Bethenny’s reflection of everything she hates in herself. Her reactions to Luann are too visceral to be anything but her own self-hate. Bethenny is also the. queen. of. deflection. while screaming that everyone else needs owns their shyt I don’t give two F**KS who Luann spreads her legs to, so why does Bethenny? Especially when she admits to being equally as “active” ANNNND dating a “legally” married man! Really, dumbass???

        • Krista

          Bethenny is an accomplished liar. Remember how her “father was never in her life?” Then we see she knows all her Dad’s buddies, so well that one of them thought giving her lingerie for her birthday was appropriate! Plenty of evidence she was around her Dad quite a bit. People started producing pictures of her with him. I use to like Bethenny before her horrible talk show. She is cruel and full of herself IMO

          • apple

            I doubt most of what comes out her mouth lately…I just learned (from season 1) that her mother’s family was in horse racing, and her mother was an “exercise rider” at the track…which explains some of her mother’s issues with weight and also how she met Bethenny’s father and step-father. I wonder what her mother’s version of the story is…she has denied most of what Bethenny has said about her childhood in the press. She also correctly predicted that Bethenny would dump Jason because “he is too weak for her”.

  • Aunt Bee

    I am definitely NOT on the countASS’s side. Bethany was very harsh and inappropriate to do this at a party but I agree with most of what was said. The countASS is so narcissistic she couldn’t even let Jules have a moment with her sick father or show any concern other than herself. She is a disgusting phony.

  • Coochie-Coochie

    The countess would reply… ” il y a besoin d’une pour reconnaître l’autre “

    • The Countess of Hootersville

      D’accord !

  • Weird that she stands by the “slut” calling when she is bringing up an etiquette book, pedophile comment and hypocrisy. If she really doesn’t have a problem with Luann banging everyone, and the real problem is hypocrisy, why call her slut? No big deal though. It’s not brain surgery, two alpha females competing for queen bee on a reality show..makes for sparks that Bravo loves 😀

  • Princess of Strogonoff

    The difference between the slutty countess and Bethenny is that LuAnn does what she does in the open

    In any case, sluts don’t break the girl code being a slut can’t buy you class

  • Cms

    One would think this outrageous behavior would not bode well for future business relationships. I’m quite sure it would be career suicide for most of us to continue to display lack of self control/self awareness.

  • Shirley

    Bethenny! Stop being a mean girl. You have a slutty past and current rumor is you are hanging out and flirting with a married man. You just threw him a birthday party. Watch out!

  • glorybe

    Who cares who LuAnn slept with or what she does in her private life. She’s single, she’s of age to do what she feels like doing and she’s not hurting anyone in the process. Happy that she’s engaged to a man who makes her happy. Bethenney in the mean time will grow old alone! She’s a sourpuss who is jealous of anyone who is in a happy relationship. Money does not buy money everything!!

  • Team Countess Luann

    Bethenny is a HYPOCRITE & DOUCHE BAG.

    Does she think she is God —
    who hands out demeaning & derogatory judgements about everyone but herself? ??

    Bethenny is a bitter, angry, malicious woman!

    She is NOT entertaining on tv, Bravo.

    Fire Bethenny !!!

    Team Countess Luann all the way !!!!!

  • Princess of Strogonoff

    This team is as real as LuAnns title

  • Michelle

    I do like my Bethenny but she is making it very hard this season. As soon as she laughed at Luann’s “mentor” comment, I knew. B had no right to say anything whether it was needed or not. Whether it was BS or not. Who died and made Bethenny the BS judge and executioner?! Tsk…Tsk…Tsk..

    As for Luann……I’m shaking my head in disapproval…..that countess needs to go back to royalty school. She’s failing miserably. She is of-course only getting as good as she has given but B needs to rise above all that and let the lady (the countess) hang herself.

    Poor Jules…..I did wonder why she was there? She should have been with her dad.

    Dorinda……ya see, I can identify with Bethenny because I’m a lot like her so if this had happened at my house……darling I would have been shutting that BS down fast! And unfortunately, I would have been the banshee but I would not have let that go on especially after all the work I put in to making this party festive. No sirree! It would have been shut down fast!

  • Anonymous

    Team B!

  • Joanne

    Bethenny attacked Luann because she dared to say to bring up Bethenny’s shitty girl brand. She is a miserable, jealous, insecure, petty person on a good day. She is always putting people down. That shrink is not helping her. I hate that she came back to the show, her shrieky voice and obnoxious comments give me headache.

    • Suze☕️

      Best comment award! Xoxoxo❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • SKYE

    Being rich has made Bethenny a monster…she is out of control and out of her mind.
    She is completely so full of herself. Do us all a favor and shut the fuck up, Bitch!
    Has anyone noticed how Dorinda is kissing Bethennys ass?

  • Melodie

    I don’t agree with how B handled the entire argument but she is right on with her statement. Luann is a HUGE HYPOCRITE. She will never own her own behavior and then tells everyone else they act like trash. Well Lu sometimes I like and but in this case you are really a hypocrite. First before I say anything about the argument you are the rudest most disrespectful woman Jules was trying to tell you about her father who was in the hospital and all you could talk about was your hurt “FEELINGS” No countess, princess or even a common man or woman would have continued to talk about themselves when someone is trying to get some support as her dad lies in the hospital. That was sickening to watch. Replay it over and see how she just blew Jules off and continued on her rant. I don’t like the word slut but in this case I think it fits. Luann can sleep with 20 somethings, one night stands, men she does not even know and if anyone else did that Luann comes biting at them. She was disgusting to Carole and she never wanted to know the truth about what happened with her niece because her story was so much better. Even if Adam had spoken to her and told her he and her niece had broken up a year before Carole met him. She would never own it or apologize for her very mean and spiteful comments.
    Lu does not get my kuddos this week she gets the boot. Beth is tough no question and her delivery is very harsh but everything B said to Lu was the truth.

  • Gia

    Bethenny’s an abusive AHOLE. Judgmental horses ASS. She sits there and insults Luanne after she says she’s trying to help Sonja. She then mocks her. She then goes over to Ramona and starts threatening to kick Luanne’s ass. She continues to assault Luanne and then creepy Carole walks in and insults Luanne’s voice. Bethenny continues to abuse Luanne and nobody tells her to knock it off. Luanne doesn’t seem to know how to extricate herself and is still trying to have the conversation. Obviously, she’s upset and doesn’t really ‘hear’ what Jules is saying about her Dad being ill. Then Jules joins the viper’s in the bedroom and starts talking about Luanne too. Then Dorinda, who can’t handle ANYTHING and certainly would never tell Bethenny to take a chill pill, goes off her rocker when Luanne says something about the food and the cake. Of course Bethenny then has abuser’s remorse for about 2 seconds only, so she can gain sympathy from everyone for being a complete A-HOLE and everyone is there to soothe her. NUTS!!!

  • Gia

    YOU ARE SUCH A LIAR BETHENNY!! Luanne didn’t come for your business, you attacked her at the table and then continued the assault for the next 20 minutes. What a paranoid POS you are. Seriously, the nastier and vile people, if they are successful, they have nothing but a bunch of sycophants around them. So don’t say you hate “phony” people Bethenny, because YOU LOVE having them kiss your ass. In a million years, this chic would never survive in most circles because they would knock her skinnygirl butt out.

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